A visit to Jerusalem

[Norder]

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Norder My life when young was : football, women, boooze, etc , just as all the young lads these days. But now no football ,(its on the telly ,or internet) not really any booze, just an odd sip here and there, and women, lets just say ''not on the agenda.'' Life certainly changes!

Life, but for many will become 'materialistic' but that can not satisfy the soul. The soul is part of the infinite, but in this world everything has its limitations. The mind is seeking the soul, the infinite, it is inside you, Some go to places far away seeking, but it is there inside you. The wise have said ''know yourself. '' Go inside, not outside.

exactly Balam....on my travels, have been to places where people seeking enlightenment would insert themselves in some spiritual getaway for a short time, seeking direction - and thats up to them....but as you say, all is inside you, around you, and there's so much that speaks, if....we listen.

Wanderlust -"If you believe in the concept of time then logically there has to be a Creator or at least a creative force that made something out of nothing"

But if you don't believe in 'the concept of time', what then ?

I wear a watch with a movement - Sinkov....those coming and goings, so much more important than the figures, and indeed...are Nothing without it, can forget nothing.

Some years ago, myself and Mrs Norder had to wait for a train to arrive, a small station, somewhere most idyllic...we didn't have a long wait, the train being at enough distance for us to take a very short walk and locate ourselves before a lovely seascape. It was serene, tranquil, timeless...our senses were soothed - so much so, that watching the time was dismissed from our mind.
We don't know how long we sat there, but there were things that happened in that space that moved us way beyond the trains coming and going, at least, it felt that way. Then, time came....I looked to the watch, "if we go now" I said...."we can just make the train", "what time is it" said Mrs Norder...."it'll be the same one we meant to catch" I said.....How wonderful that was !

am sure we've all experienced similar at some point, it's expansion and contraction, and.....suspension.