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  1. #2511
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    "Now, from there, I moved on to notice that the voting system in this country is a disgrace. And that there appeared no longer to be any real reason to believe that the outcome of any election in this country necessarily reflects people’s choice and that we desperately needed, as we still need, election reform. And it could be done quickly and easily, you know. It could be done by making everyone automatically … have everyone be registered to vote automatically on their 18th birthday, you know, making Election Day a federal holiday. I don’t believe in early voting. I certainly don’t believe in voting from home. And above all, getting rid of computerised vote-counting right? And banning the participation of private companies in the election process, OK?

    Now, the point here is that our elections have been stolen for a long time. And I started to study that problem, and until then I was a sort of tolerable figure. You know, I was a public intellectual who was regarded as out there, but acceptable. Then I wrote Fooled Again, scrupulously evidenced, you know, a lot of notes and so on. It was my hope and the publisher’s hope that this book would jump-start a crucial national debate on the need to reform the voting system. And the book was completely blacklisted. It was blacked out, to the publisher’s amazement. This is Basic Books, a very big house. No reviews in any major papers, NPR would now not touch me with a ten-foot pole, you know, unless they used it to push me out the window.

    But the oddest thing about this moment and what really woke me up was the fact that I now was called, by the Left press, a conspiracy theorist. Suddenly I was a conspiracy theorist. This is the Left press that I had written for. In fact I edited a number of special issues of The Nation magazine on the problem of media concentration. I mean, they were great issues because each one had had a foldout glossy chart of ownership. The first one showed what owns the TV news. So you can see, you can look up at the top and see what else they own. That magazine attacked me now as a conspiracy theorist. My book was conspiracy theory. To say that I was startled is an understatement. I couldn’t believe it, but I decided to look into how that phrase had come into circulation.

    Now everybody says, and I know it’s the same in Britain, everybody many, many people say, ‘Well, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but …’ right? And then they’ll say something perfectly rational that anyone who puts two and two together would say. But people feel they have to apologise for their suspicions of elite intentions. OK? That’s a momentous change, really. And I wanted to know how it had come to be, when did it become a thing? And it was easy to find out. I went to the New York Times archives and the Washington Post and Time magazines online, just took about 20 minutes. And I did a search on those phrases, ‘conspiracy theory’ and ‘conspiracy theorist’, and discovered that before 1967, the former was rarely used and used in various ways, and I never could come across the use of ‘conspiracy theorist’ right? It was like a new pejorative epithet. And then it was fairly easy to find that 1967 was the year that the CIA sent out this memo to all its station chiefs worldwide, it’s 1035-960, it’s online.

    And basically it instructs the station chiefs of the CIA, wherever each one is, to use his media assets, his friends in the media and politicians to discredit the work of a number of writers who were questioning the Warren Report (into the assassination of President Kennedy). The one I think they were aiming most squarely at was Mark Lane, whose book Rush to Judgement was one of the first to question it in a systematic way. The Warren Report is a joke, right? And here we are over a half-century later and it is still taboo to talk about this … that was the purpose of the memo, to launch a kind of a smear campaign against people who were questioning the official narrative of the Warren Report. So this was the beginning of a smear campaign and it naturally grew and the use of those phrases increased and they have increased exponentially over the decades as more and more official narratives have been trotted out with more and more catastrophic consequences, you know, pushing more and more people to do the rational thing and ask themselves, ‘What is going on, what’s happening here?’

    I mean, we could sit here for two hours simply listing the questions raised by the Daily News on the subject of Covid and the subject of the vaccines, right? And on many other subjects. It took me a while to get over this attack, but not that long. And ever since I have devoted myself to precisely what you said, which is the discrepancy between the media spectacle and reality. Now that gap is growing to a really frightening extent, but also in a way, it’s exhilarating to see a process approach its climax. Let me make one point about what’s going on right this minute – and it’s the most important thing we could possibly discuss. I have to make an effort to maintain my composure when I talk about it, but it’s the vaccination programme, right? Which was anticipated by the mask furore, you know, the masking mandates. That was actually a preparation for this moment because that, too, was very, very divisive. It set maskers off against anti-maskers. It cast the anti-maskers as putting lives at risk. And it also created this profoundly illogical and ferocious imperative, a collectivist imperative, which is: I have my mask on, why aren’t you wearing yours? In other words, it’s not enough to wear a mask – you know, they don’t work anyway, we can get into all that – it’s not enough for you to have a mask on, your mask somehow doesn’t work if I don’t have mine on. Right? It doesn’t make any sense. But you can’t make that point with somebody screaming from six feet away that you have to put a mask on or you’re going to kill everybody around you.

    Well, that has, that insanity has broadened into the far more threatening imperative. I mean formally, in normal times in the years BC right – that’s Before Covid – if you were vaccinated you weren’t susceptible to certain diseases. That’s not the case any more. Now the unvaccinated are being cast as really despicable, loathsome vectors of infectious disease, which is exactly the way the Jews were depicted by the Nazis. Exactly. The Nazis, the Nazi propaganda, cast the Jews as vectors of tuberculosis. They cast them as vectors of syphilis. I think this is even in Mein Kampf, you know, so they were disease-bearing entities that had to be wiped out, had to be exterminated. And even though, you know, Germany was actually the best-educated and most enlightened nation in Europe prior to World War One, the expert use of propaganda and the complete elimination of any alternative voice, made the people extremely vulnerable to a kind of hypnosis. And the same thing has happened throughout the West. It certainly has happened in Australia, New Zealand as well. Thank God we have the Internet, because it does allow us to make an attempt to spread the word despite the thunder of official propaganda."

  2. #2512
    My dentist and GP are pestering me to go for annual check-ups, but insist I have to wear a mask to even enter the premises.

    The staff were dumbfounded when they got told to "F*ck Off!", I'm not coming.

    Now Boris is doing the sneaky snorkelling bit and introducing vaccine passports by the back door.

    Most of us on here will now need a passport to go nightclubbing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    My dentist and GP are pestering me to go for annual check-ups, but insist I have to wear a mask to even enter the premises.

    The staff were dumbfounded when they got told to "F*ck Off!", I'm not coming.

    Now Boris is doing the sneaky snorkelling bit and introducing vaccine passports by the back door.

    Most of us on here will now need a passport to go nightclubbing!
    No problem for me BT, doesn't worry me at all, but once they've got the principal in by the back door, it's the bit that comes next that I worry about. As should we all, but the majority in this mad house seem totally oblivious to what's coming down the line towards them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post

    Now Boris is doing the sneaky snorkelling bit and introducing vaccine passports by the back door.

    Most of us on here will now need a passport to go nightclubbing!
    as usual - it depends on the People....they being quite free to ignore that pathetic numpty - Alex de pfeffel...and his equally pitiable partners in crime, if they dont (what the PTB rely on) then as usual, we stuff ourselves.

    and seems, this vaccine passport will require a continuous supply of jabs to stay valid - how about a daily pinprick when leaving the house that should do it, destroy the natural immune system - become completely reliant on big pharma to keep us going, it not free of course...as could be expensive, though for those on a budget, dont worry, am sure they'll supply some cheaper. lesser quality type, just might not live as long.
    Make up what you like, I know they are.

    Sweden bans entry for travelers from US, Israel due to rising COVID-19 rates

    Second EU country after Portugal to ban Israeli visitors because of increasing number of infections

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/coron...covid-19-rates

    Israeli Dr Kobi Haviv: 95% seriously ill are jabbed. Fully jabbed acc for 85-90% hospitalizations.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCg9BCpd9iU

    from what I read, that with around 75% of the population Vaccinated !


    now over to the Australian testing ground...with their latest Fascist offering - the Identify an Disrupt bill.

    Australia’s New Police Powers Allow Them To Control Social Media Accounts, Delete Data...

    https://www.iflscience.com/policy/au...s-delete-data/

    Australian Tyranny in action....Democracy - Wake Up !

    Australian Government Creates Social Credit System



    still think this is all about a Cold Bug !


    Last edited by Norder; 02-09-2021 at 09:04 PM.

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    This nonsense is getting really f*cking serious now.

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    Besides the vaccine passports, it won't be long before the Government are asking for their emergency powers to be extended for another six months. Seeing as there is no emergency, they don't need emergency powers, but Labour will go along with it and the government can do as it pleases for another six months. Where's the fecking army when you need it, get them tanks into Whitehall, or maybe we don't have any tanks any more ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    This nonsense is getting really f*cking serious now.
    as you say BT...."mission creep".

    more Australian Authoritarianism .

    South Australia's home quarantine trial

    It will start this week for people returning from New South Wales and Victoria.

    People wanting to return to South Australia and home quarantine will have to apply to SA Health.

    They will have to prove they have a place to isolate during their quarantine period and must also be fully vaccinated.

    Those who are approved will have to download the South Australian Government home quarantine app, which uses geo-location and facial recognition software to track those in quarantine.

    The app will contact people at random asking them to provide proof of their location within 15 minutes.

    We don't tell them how often or when, on a random basis they have to reply within 15 minutes," Mr Marshall said.

    If a person cannot successfully verify their location or identity when requested, SA Health will notify SA Police who will conduct an in-person check on the person in quarantine.

    I think every South Australian should feel pretty proud that we are the national pilot for the home-based quarantine app."


    ....see that, he's the telling the fully vaccinated with nothing wrong with them, to feel proud about isolating themselves and giving away their freedom to the despotic eye of Big Brother intimidation.....who the fluck do these fruitloops think they are - Australia...wake the Fluck Up, as this cnut PM Marshall says, it's a Pilot, meaning your the guinea pigs, so spin the wheel the other way, send a message - fail the test.



    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Besides the vaccine passports, it won't be long before the Government are asking for their emergency powers to be extended for another six months. Seeing as there is no emergency, they don't need emergency powers, but Labour will go along with it and the government can do as it pleases for another six months. Where's the fecking army when you need it, get them tanks into Whitehall, or maybe we don't have any tanks any more ?
    no emergency powers -no more "experimental vaccine", Sinkov.....and no easy route for those nasty bills/laws, which they need to send us closer toward a garrison state
    As for Parliament, gutless wimps more worried about losing their jobs (cushy number) than saving the country !
    Looks like it's up to - the People - there's a lot more of us than them and their clique, and we could easily do a much better job than them at running the show, all we need do is break the habit, and believe in ourselves.


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    Passing our local pharmacy this morning I saw a sign saying "Covid 19 Testing Kit -----FREE ----(for those with no symptoms)

    Amongst the intelligentsia posting on this forum please can anyone tell me why you would test yourself for something for which you have no symptoms?
    Then ---having tested yourself and found to have the Virus it would appear that they tell you to self isolate, however, you do not seek treatment for this Virus.
    Question is ---are you clear of the no-symptom virus after 10 days isolation or are you expected to pick up another FREE testing kit to see if you still have the virus? OR ---should you then seek an appointment with your GP who is probably not seeing patients face to face and they will give you the all clear by telephone?
    If you still have the virus, are you then expected to self-isolate for another 10 days, again without receiving any treatment and then after 10 days are you clear etc., etc. -------ad nauseam.

    I have no symptoms for Malaria ---but I can't get a test anywhere. I have no symptoms for anything at all----so why can I not get a free testing kit for my no-symptom illnesses? All a bit strange.
    Norder ---you must have an answer ---somewhere!

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    "Then ---having tested yourself and found to have the Virus it would appear that they tell you to self isolate, however, you do not seek treatment for this Virus."

    You've just touched upon something there Sub, that I've begun to ponder about more and more recently. We get an absolute blizzard of instructions regarding how to avoid Covid, wash your hands while singing Happy Birthday to You, wear a Face Mask, do not go within six feet of another human being, stay at home, self-isolate, download the NHS App, or is it a Test and Trace App, or are there two different ones, I don't know, take a PCR test, take a Lateral Flow Test, get a jab, get a 2nd Jab, do not go abroad, stay in your own locality, do not sit on park benches with a friend, don't hug your Granny at Christmas, you'll kill her, are just some I can remember.

    But, what to do if you actually do catch the bloody thing ? I can remember right at the beginning some discussion about whether Nurofen or Paracetamol was best, but since then nothing, not a bloody thing, I honestly do not know what the best thing to do is if I have it. Why is the government spending so much time and money telling us how to avoid it, while it doesn't give a FF about what you do when you have got it.

    Why is this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    "Then ---having tested yourself and found to have the Virus it would appear that they tell you to self isolate, however, you do not seek treatment for this Virus."

    You've just touched upon something there Sub, that I've begun to ponder about more and more recently. We get an absolute blizzard of instructions regarding how to avoid Covid, wash your hands while singing Happy Birthday to You, wear a Face Mask, do not go within six feet of another human being, stay at home, self-isolate, download the NHS App, or is it a Test and Trace App, or are there two different ones, I don't know, take a PCR test, take a Lateral Flow Test, get a jab, get a 2nd Jab, do not go abroad, stay in your own locality, do not sit on park benches with a friend, don't hug your Granny at Christmas, you'll kill her, are just some I can remember.

    But, what to do if you actually do catch the bloody thing ? I can remember right at the beginning some discussion about whether Nurofen or Paracetamol was best, but since then nothing, not a bloody thing, I honestly do not know what the best thing to do is if I have it. Why is the government spending so much time and money telling us how to avoid it, while it doesn't give a FF about what you do when you have got it.

    Why is this ?
    It's because the agenda is not how ill you are mon ami, it's a governmental trial run in control and coercion and to see how far they can push it.

    I've seen it before somewhere...

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