Is recruitment likely to drive ground improvement

[SBRed48]

Don't forget--

The arseoyle Conway has looked into Barnsley FC playing at another ground, as far away as Lancashire, so that he would not have to pay rent to Oakwell Holdings (Cryne and Council). The views and feelings of fans are a long way towards the back of his considerations.

If these owners got full control of the Oakwell site it would probably mark the end of football in the Oakwell area of town and lead to either groundsharing (Rotherham, Doncaster, Huddersfield, Hillsborough ?)and/ or the construction of a cheap soulless bowl similar to the Keepmoat, financed by a loan serviced by the club, on an industrial estate miles away from Barnsley centre.

My message is--Do Not Trust Conway. Those that hang on his every word and blow warm smoke up his arse will be very disappointed and betrayed.

[Young_Nudger]

Carl Tyler or David Currie was sold to do ponty. Cant remember exactly So no matter whos owned club the teams funded upgrades.

Carl Tyler - East Stand
Steve Agnew - Ponty
Ashley Ward - North Stand
Craig Hignett - Indoor Training Building

All built under John Dennis.
Nowt built under Patrick Cryne.

[SBRed48]

so if the crynes/council own 50% each. They should be held 50% each responsible for any upgrades..... if my house needs new windows. Would my landlord pay or me.??? Exactly!

Do you hold details of the Commercial Rental/Lease Agreement between Oakwell Holdings and Conway ? Such agreements are not the same as private landlord/tenant agreements. Many factories commercially rent their premises from Finance Companies under all kinds of responsibilities.
For example who is responsible for pitch/ grounds maintenance at Oakwell ?

[Young_Nudger]

Do you hold details of the Commercial Rental/Lease Agreement between Oakwell Holdings and Conway ? Such agreements are not the same as private landlord/tenant agreements. Many factories commercially rent their premises from Finance Companies under all kinds of responsibilities.
For example who is responsible for pitch/ grounds maintenance at Oakwell ?

Yep - it dosent mean because you don’t own a property that you don’t spend on it.
If it’s lease hold and you have permission to develop from the owners then there’s no problem.

[BarnsleyDaft]

Well ill never make mi millions... cos idea of me spending to make someone els property more valuable to them. Makes no sense at all to me...... sorry all but i just cant get my head around it.

[BarnsleyDaft]

Carl Tyler - East Stand
Steve Agnew - Ponty
Ashley Ward - North Stand
Craig Hignett - Indoor Training Building

All built under John Dennis.
Nowt built under Patrick Cryne.

Which tells thi none of em ave put there hands in there pocket to build on the stands
.
You know you cant say am wrong then go on to prove my point using different words.. ive got our lass to do that to me

[Young_Nudger]

Which tells thi none of em ave put there hands in there pocket to build on the stands
.
You know you cant say am wrong then go on to prove my point using different words.. ive got our lass to do that to me

Yes - but - you could look at this in a different way.
Ward sold to Blackburn for £5.5M.
John Dennis owned the club at that time - so I would imagine there wasn’t that much restriction on what he did with the money.
Options:
1) Pocket the money.
2) Spend money on the team.
3) Pocket some and spend a bit on the club.
4) Develop the North Stand to hold 5,000 so we are able to accommodate any away support in the future and by doing so generate a sizeable income from it.

[Romared]

John Dennis was the Chairman not owner, he had backing from good local business people , Mick Hayselden, John Kelly , Chris Harrison, and a few more, and just to put a few straight " again " this consortium paid a lot less than the 8 million that's been bandied around , if your taken in by there ways ? You will end up disappointed ,

[Romared]

Which tells thi none of em ave put there hands in there pocket to build on the stands
.
You know you cant say am wrong then go on to prove my point using different words.. ive got our lass to do that to me

correct BD

[SBRed48]

Well ill never make mi millions... cos idea of me spending to make someone els property more valuable to them. Makes no sense at all to me...... sorry all but i just cant get my head around it.

Try this one.

A man buys a cheap car and puts down a deposit, agreeing to pay the rest in instalments on agreed dates.

When it comes to the instalments he refuses to pay claiming there are issues with the car which he hadn't checked properly before he bought it.

The original owner of the car has to take the purchaser to Court to get the agreed money.

Who is the legal owner ?