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    ....brainwashing at it's best................

    ...and people moan about places like China.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Yes, not a bad idea really. We could have it as a permanent thing, a channel ( or more) dedicated to black only programming.

    Like on the radio Classic FM will be classical music, no surprises.

    So if channel 4 was permanently black presenters, black contestants, black programming etc folks would know and tune in or avoid it as necessary
    ...great idea, all in 1 place.......................

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    I wasn't sure I saw the point of doing things like this until I see threads like these.

    The evidence shows that historically minorities have been under represented proportionately on our screens and with opportunities in the industry.

    Maybe those spending just one evening feeling under represented on TV can now understand why people feel representation is an important to issue?
    Last edited by John2; 10-09-2021 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    I wasn't sure I saw the point of doing things like this until I see threads like these.

    The evidence shows that, despite increasing efforts and some people thinking they are over represented, minorities have been hugely under represented proportionately on our screens and with opportunities in the industry.

    Maybe those spending just one evening feeling under represented on TV can now understand why people feel representation is an important to issue?
    Been all day actually.

    Now imagine Channel 4 only having white people on all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    Been all day actually.

    Now imagine Channel 4 only having white people on all day.
    We've come a long way fortunately, it used to be pretty much that with the occasional offensive stereotype added to a sitcom as far as I can tell from the older shows I've seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    I wasn't sure I saw the point of doing things like this until I see threads like these.

    The evidence shows that historically minorities have been under represented proportionately on our screens and with opportunities in the industry.

    Maybe those spending just one evening feeling under represented on TV can now understand why people feel representation is an important to issue?
    No. The evidence actually shows that gay and ethnic minorities are actually over represented on UK TV in comparison to their demographic. But that doesn't suit what appears to be your narrative does it.

    Few would argue about historical injustice and prejudice but we are talking about the here and now. The vast majority of people are live and let live. Have you ever sat down, had a moment of reflection, and thought that perhaps, just perhaps, it's you that has the issue John?

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...n-tv-n7xcqftgz

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    We've come a long way fortunately, it used to be pretty much that with the occasional offensive stereotype added to a sitcom as far as I can tell from the older shows I've seen.
    So having all black people is "progress" from having all white people?

    That's not really "diversity" though is it?

    Isn't that what people like you ae allegedly in favour of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    So having all black people is "progress" from having all white people?

    That's not really "diversity" though is it?

    Isn't that what people like you ae allegedly in favour of?
    As a nation we are more divided than ever.

    As taking the knee shows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    No. The evidence actually shows that gay and ethnic minorities are actually over represented on UK TV in comparison to their demographic. But that doesn't suit what appears to be your narrative does it.

    Few would argue about historical injustice and prejudice but we are talking about the here and now. The vast majority of people are live and let live. Have you ever sat down, had a moment of reflection, and thought that perhaps, just perhaps, it's you that has the issue John?

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...n-tv-n7xcqftgz
    To be honest, I didn't know the motivations for what channel 4 is doing, nor do I have any strong opinion on the matter, I just find it funny that some boomers who love to call the younger generation snowflakes, are themselves the ones who get themselves so triggered and worked up over the smallest things, as this thread and the other one about the nationality of someone who came to this country age 2 show.

    The Times article is behind a paywall, The Daily Mail article reporting on that story says that there are huge under representation issues in certain areas behind the camera. If channel 4 wanted to get us talking and realising these things, they've done a good job.

    It's one evening, maybe don't be such snowflakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    As a nation we are more divided than ever.

    As taking the knee shows
    Honestly, it seems to be divided between young and old in a way I'd be interested to know if its been that bad historically.

    Younger people seem to be much better connected with diverse peers than the older generation does, thankfully.

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