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    Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
    Think tha being harsh. Don't let your dislike for the head coach impact upon your views. We've big influential players missing last night, Benson, Morris and Mads, arguably the spine of the team.

    There's things I'm not happy with too but it's still early days. It's difficult acclimatising after Val and his cavalier style but we weren't always organised and well drilled under him either. Rotherham and Coventry pyssed on us, proper made us look rank. We scraped past Birmingham and Millwall. Wednesday did a number on us at Oakwell and the tactics in the play offs against a side that had comfortably done the double over us were baffling to say the least.

    This new passing strategy is the best way forward imo but it takes time. The players may also need convincing after the win rate under the previous head coach. It needs tweak or 2 but we ain't that far off. The head coach is still feeling his way. He needs a big personality to wash the Ismael culture out of this club. I hope he's given time to do so.
    I don't dislike him Pass and your right the passing game is the way forward .

    I just don't think he's a very good HC , simple as that .

    He was left with a very good squad coming off the back of a 5th place finish .

    This isn't Stendel handing the baton to Struber to say the least .

    In a matter of 7 games he's destroyed everything that was achieved last season and replaced it with Barnsley football club September / October 2019 .

    It's a remarkable feat .

    There isn't anyone else to point the finger at because the nucleus of last season's squad is still here .

    I'm harsh because the situation speaks for itself after the shyte show last night , it was embarrassing .

    Anybody would think he'd had 14 new and inexperienced players to get up to championship speed whilst losing the nucleus of last season's lads .

    He's a poor HC in my opinion and it's going to take a huge transformation for me to move from my position .

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    Ok Marcus does have 'just a few games in' and 'absent players' as well as valid excuses, at the moment. So I suppose it is a case of giving him that long.
    That's fine but there have to be questions asked as to some of his ideas so far.

    Also, seeing as we were so lucky again last night, should we be having a go at Vic for not snatching a win when he had the chance ?.
    Last edited by Acido; 16-09-2021 at 05:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    I don't dislike him Pass and your right the passing game is the way forward .

    I just don't think he's a very good HC , simple as that .

    He was left with a very good squad coming off the back of a 5th place finish .

    This isn't Stendel handing the baton to Struber to say the least .

    In a matter of 7 games he's destroyed everything that was achieved last season and replaced it with Barnsley football club September / October 2019 .

    It's a remarkable feat .

    There isn't anyone else to point the finger at because the nucleus of last season's squad is still here .

    I'm harsh because the situation speaks for itself after the shyte show last night , it was embarrassing .

    Anybody would think he'd had 14 new and inexperienced players to get up to championship speed whilst losing the nucleus of last season's lads .

    He's a poor HC in my opinion and it's going to take a huge transformation for me to move from my position .
    Slightly misworded by me Animal saying you don't like him. To correct myself I meant that your criticism is slightly over the top considering we are so early into the season. I see your point but think it's exaggerated. We are not in September/October 2019 territory here and have not gone backwards that far imo. There is some naivety in certain aspects of our play which is worrying but there have also been passages of play in the games I've seen that have impressed very much.

    We have gone backwards from last season but that was always going to be the case with the loss of Dike, Mowatt and Sollbauer. The head coach and his coaching staff also departing and our change in style from a long ball team to a passing team. The suspension and injury list hasn't helped matters either this season. I'd like to see what we are like with a fully fit squad. Schopp should be given more time imo. We don't know a great deal about him. Our start hasn't been great but hasn't been disastrous either.

    I'm of mixed emotion on what to feel with my first impressions o Schopp. Confused is probably the most apt word I can find to describe my emotions at the moment. Tha may well be proved reight with your opinions or it could go other rooard too. We shall see mate.

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