New Home Ticket policy & prices confirmed

[Tichi1]

Average wage in the North is around £24k, before taxes. so £2k/month before tax (in the UK that on average is 20%) leaving around £1600 per month to cover all living expenses, including mortgage, council tax, everything. So a single ticket to ER would represent nearly 3% of a single persons monthly disposable income.

If like me, you're a pensioner, your location is irrelevant. You would get around £850/month as a single person, again to cover everything, so the % that a single person would have to shell out for a single ticket at ER would be more like 7% of available income Try doing that and paying for heat, water, council tax, (none of which are "negotiable" are they?) BEFORE you consider whether you would like to eat that week/month. How many matches would you be able to attend (assuming of course that travel/accommodation costs are nil)?

So, Orgoner, care to hazard a guess as to how easy it is for a pensioner to attend ER???????????

As for stopping touts (who are NOT "Fans selling tickets", THEY are the parasites referred to, selling ticket to fans desperate to watch their team), easy, maximum number of tickets sold in a single transaction = 4, no tickets sold to those who are not registered members and whose membership AND previous attendance have been validated by the club, immediate and permanent bans to any members found to have sold tickets at anything over face value, no tickets to be sanctioned for sale via "third party" ticket sales sites such as Stubhub. None of the above is hard to achieve, and it won't make tout sales impossible, just a f00king sight harder and less profitable, just needs the club to take action, question is, will they (can they be bothered)?

Given that you seem an intelligent man - albeit a misserable one - I am surprised to say the least that you didn't have the foresight and / or the opportunity to invest in a private pension to subsidise your lifestyle following retirement?
It seems to be a given nowadays that people are expected to take out a private pension - wasn't always the case, but from previous posts I beleive you have held some senior positions in your working life and so would have expected you to have taken steps to support yourself through retirement.
Perhaps I am completely wrong here and you do actually have a private pension, or where never in a position to invest in one, but it's just the way you respond to comments about not attending games, and refer to people living on a pension, meaning the state pension that lead me to this conclusion.

This is not a dig by the way.

[WTF11]

Given that you seem an intelligent man - albeit a misserable one - I am surprised to say the least that you didn't have the foresight and / or the opportunity to invest in a private pension to subsidise your lifestyle following retirement?
It seems to be a given nowadays that people are expected to take out a private pension - wasn't always the case, but from previous posts I beleive you have held some senior positions in your working life and so would have expected you to have taken steps to support yourself through retirement.
Perhaps I am completely wrong here and you do actually have a private pension, or where never in a position to invest in one, but it's just the way you respond to comments about not attending games, and refer to people living on a pension, meaning the state pension that lead me to this conclusion.

This is not a dig by the way.

I did indeed "invest in a private pension", only to see its value drop like a stone as a result of poor investment management (I'm not one of the fortunate enough to have had a final salary pension), leaving me with a fraction of what I contributed to "subsidise my lifestyle". Despite being of retirement age I work, when I can find employers willing to take on a 66-year old, although the earnings are usually at the level of the national minimum wage (roughly half of the average wage figure I gave), partly to keep the wolf from the door, partly to stave off boredom, but still have much less than the average wage figure to manage on. I don't know what personal circumstances apply to any of those who post here, but I do know how hard it can be just to exist, and to do so at a time when it might have been reasonably expected that life would be just a little less harsh. Shame some others find it easier to make flippant "humorous" remarks. "Walk a mile......."

I'm not, as you put it, a miserable man, just hard-bitten, particularly in the time since my wife died, to the extent that the measures I suggested to prevent ticket touts are but a mere bagatelle compared to what I would do if the law didn't prevent me. Slicing off the hands and tongues of those found guilty of ticket touting, and perhaps for the real bosses of what is an industrial scale crime, gouging out of eyes, would be some of the milder punishments, with no recourse to state assistance for those punished.