O/t .....Angela Rayner

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Oh and before I get back to my work......mail on Sunday......newspaper of the year.......again.😎

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve8JzyjHz0Y

don't know how to paste the link.

Greta comes home you Tube sketch. Very topical even though it was created a year ago.

😂

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Good article in mail on Sunday about a couple who got 70k in grants (Not avail now) to put in ground source heat pump and all the gubbings......wear their coats in the winter indoors and dosent really work when temp gets below 0.......think a baths oot Nov to Feb.😁

This is nothing new.
About 15 years ago West Highland Housing Association who are bankrolled by the Scottish Government and Argyll and Bute Council built houses on Islay which had ground source heat pumps.
However there was one small problem. The person (s) who installed the ground source heat pumps had installed them the wrong way round with the West Highland Housing Association houses being freezing cold in the winter and boiling hot during the summer.
I know the person who received the contract to fix this problem so that the ground source pumps heating system worked the correct way round otherwise I would have known nothing about it as any problems on Islay are covered up until it is too late to do anything about it.
The famous statement by the Ileachs is “We should have done something about that”!!

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wonder if this topic could just move into discussing COP 26. I discovered, watching richard Osman's Game Show that Bhutan was the only carbon neutral country in the world. I can't watch the TV covereage of Cop26 at all because everyone is saying we must stop carbon dioxide gas production. My question has always been HOW? At last the answer is clear, adopt the lifestyle of the people who live in Bhutan. No Health Service, few roads, subsistence farming, minimal education, poverty. Buddhism, seems to me Scotland is heading in the right direction!

The thing that I cannot understand is. If we get rid of all CO2 emissions how are plants and crops going to grow.
Is this another ploy by the “tree huggers” to kill off the population and don’t get me started about companies such as Scottish Power selling ‘100% Green Electricity” deals to the public. Another con.

[BCram]

The thing that I cannot understand is. If we get rid of all CO2 emissions how are plants and crops going to grow.
Is this another ploy by the “tree huggers” to kill off the population and don’t get me started about companies such as Scottish Power selling ‘100% Green Electricity” deals to the public. Another con.

Islay, I can't quote you the exact percentage of CO2 that is generated by humans but it is so tiny that there will be plenty of of the stuff around for plants. In the atmosphere CO2 makes up 0.04%, with nitrogen and oxygen making up almost 99%.

found this information on line, apologies if it bores anyone.

Earth absorbs energy from sunlight, but as the surface warms, it also emits energy in the form of infrared radiation (which we know of as heat) out into space. Water vapor and CO2, however, act like a cap, making it more difficult for Earth to get rid of this energy. Without gases like these to absorb the energy, our planet’s average surface temperature would have been near zero degrees Fahrenheit.

About 99 percent of the atmosphere is made of oxygen and nitrogen, which cannot absorb the infrared radiation the Earth emits. Of the remaining 1 percent, the main molecules that can absorb infrared radiation are CO2 and water vapor, because their atoms are able to vibrate in just the right way to absorb the energy that the Earth gives off. After these gases absorb the energy, they emit half of it back to Earth and half of it into space, trapping some of the heat within the atmosphere. This trapping of heat is what we call the greenhouse effect. Because of the greenhouse effect created by these trace gases, the average temperature of the Earth is around 15˚C, or 59˚F, which allows for life to exist.

CO2 makes up only about 0.04% of the atmosphere, and water vapor can vary from 0 to 4%. But while water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gas in our atmosphere, it has “windows” that allow some of the infrared energy to escape without being absorbed. In addition, water vapor is concentrated lower in the atmosphere, whereas CO2 mixes well all the way to about 50 kilometers up. The higher the greenhouse gas, the more effective it is at trapping heat from the Earth’s surface.

The burning of fossil fuels affects the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Before the industrial revolution, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere was about 288 ppm. We have now reached about 414 ppm, so we are on the way to doubling the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by the end of this century. Scientists say that if CO2 doubles, it could raise the average global temperature of the Earth between two and five degrees Celsius. We are already increasing the amount of energy that bounces back to the Earth. Because of the greenhouse effect, this is causing global warming with its many destructive impacts.

Both water vapor and CO2 are responsible for global warming, and once we increase the CO2 in the atmosphere, the oceans warm up, which inevitably triggers an increase in water vapor. But while we have no way to control water vapor, we can control CO2. And because we are increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by continuing to burn fossil fuels, even in relatively small amounts compared to the entire mass of the atmosphere, we are disturbing the entire heat balance of the planet.

Hope this helps. I don't see how we are going to capture the carbon that is already in the atmosphere and it seems absolutely obvious that planting trees isn't going to work. just as giving politicians who run Pacific Islands to run their economies entirely on green energy won't make any difference either. saw a stat that said per head of population our CO2 production put us in about 15th place from the top, China on the same measure was 14th top. The clue is in the per head of population. China, population 1.4bn. GB , population 66m. China emits 21 times the amount of CO2 that GB does. these are the sorts of statistics that we are being given to make us take actions that will, IMO, achieve nothing to solve the problem.

[BCram]

Greta is on our side!

https://youtu.be/4WuAZYS8bq0

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Greta is on our side!

https://youtu.be/4WuAZYS8bq0

She could make me change my pro life stance.

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Islay, I can't quote you the exact percentage of CO2 that is generated by humans but it is so tiny that there will be plenty of of the stuff around for plants. In the atmosphere CO2 makes up 0.04%, with nitrogen and oxygen making up almost 99%.

found this information on line, apologies if it bores anyone.

Earth absorbs energy from sunlight, but as the surface warms, it also emits energy in the form of infrared radiation (which we know of as heat) out into space. Water vapor and CO2, however, act like a cap, making it more difficult for Earth to get rid of this energy. Without gases like these to absorb the energy, our planet’s average surface temperature would have been near zero degrees Fahrenheit.

About 99 percent of the atmosphere is made of oxygen and nitrogen, which cannot absorb the infrared radiation the Earth emits. Of the remaining 1 percent, the main molecules that can absorb infrared radiation are CO2 and water vapor, because their atoms are able to vibrate in just the right way to absorb the energy that the Earth gives off. After these gases absorb the energy, they emit half of it back to Earth and half of it into space, trapping some of the heat within the atmosphere. This trapping of heat is what we call the greenhouse effect. Because of the greenhouse effect created by these trace gases, the average temperature of the Earth is around 15˚C, or 59˚F, which allows for life to exist.

CO2 makes up only about 0.04% of the atmosphere, and water vapor can vary from 0 to 4%. But while water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gas in our atmosphere, it has “windows” that allow some of the infrared energy to escape without being absorbed. In addition, water vapor is concentrated lower in the atmosphere, whereas CO2 mixes well all the way to about 50 kilometers up. The higher the greenhouse gas, the more effective it is at trapping heat from the Earth’s surface.

The burning of fossil fuels affects the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Before the industrial revolution, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere was about 288 ppm. We have now reached about 414 ppm, so we are on the way to doubling the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by the end of this century. Scientists say that if CO2 doubles, it could raise the average global temperature of the Earth between two and five degrees Celsius. We are already increasing the amount of energy that bounces back to the Earth. Because of the greenhouse effect, this is causing global warming with its many destructive impacts.

Both water vapor and CO2 are responsible for global warming, and once we increase the CO2 in the atmosphere, the oceans warm up, which inevitably triggers an increase in water vapor. But while we have no way to control water vapor, we can control CO2. And because we are increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by continuing to burn fossil fuels, even in relatively small amounts compared to the entire mass of the atmosphere, we are disturbing the entire heat balance of the planet.

Hope this helps. I don't see how we are going to capture the carbon that is already in the atmosphere and it seems absolutely obvious that planting trees isn't going to work. just as giving politicians who run Pacific Islands to run their economies entirely on green energy won't make any difference either. saw a stat that said per head of population our CO2 production put us in about 15th place from the top, China on the same measure was 14th top. The clue is in the per head of population. China, population 1.4bn. GB , population 66m. China emits 21 times the amount of CO2 that GB does. these are the sorts of statistics that we are being given to make us take actions that will, IMO, achieve nothing to solve the problem.

Thank you for your detailed information.
About thirty years ago the scientists and environmentalists like David Attenborough were warning us of the dire consequences of a large hole in the ozone layer above the South Pole.
Back m the 1980’s the same environmentalists where warning us about acid rain which was killing trees.
Now in 2021 there is no mention about the hole in the ozone layer above the South Pole nor acid rain which is still killing our trees but these are ‘old hat’ with CO2 emissions being the topical subject.
In 2004 I was a member of the Islay Energy Trust steering group along with one of my golfing friends.
My friend told the chairman of the group that they should be investigating ways to capture methane emissions from the cows on Islay.
The chairman dismissed my friend’s suggestion and told him that Islay Energy Trust would be trying to instal their own wind turbine to ‘save the planet’.
Now 17 years later in 2021 the politicians at the COP26 summit have signed a deal to reduce methane emissions in their countries.
If the chairman of the Islay Energy Trust steering group had listened to my friend’s suggestion in 2004 about capturing methane emissions the Islay Energy Trust steering group could have been world leaders in reducing methane emissions.
The Islay Energy Trust steering group was an expensive waste of time but I learnt a lot about how expensive and inefficient the various types of renewable energy are.

[BCram]

How do you capture methane?

[islaydarkblue]

How do you capture methane?

I do not know.
Probably the same way as they capture CO2.