Illegals and Failed Asylum Seekers

[Leicesterbaggie]

What you don't appear to understand 123 is the word illegal. If in all other areas of society we ignored the laws, we'd be in a right mess! You state that most of those who remain do so because their visas have expired and haven't come on dingys. So that's OK then, and overstaying your visa is not illegal? I'm sorry, but I don't understand your reasoning.

[WBA123]

What you don't appear to understand 123 is the word illegal. If in all other areas of society we ignored the laws, we'd be in a right mess! You state that most of those who remain do so because their visas have expired and haven't come on dingys. So that's OK then, and overstaying your visa is not illegal? I'm sorry, but I don't understand your reasoning.

I think you're missing my point.

A lot of media attention is given to immigrants arriving by boat, yet hardly any to those who overstay their visas. And the figures would suggest that is the area of high numbers of immigrants to be looking at. And Priti Patel is talking about sending gunboats and the Navy in - for the area of immigration that is minimal. Its pure PR posturing.

And also, you're talking about 'illegal'. Do you think people who risk their lives in dangerous dinghies on choppy waters in November care about if they do something that is legal or not? Politicians, such as Johnson and Patel, see this issue as a vote winner for them. And here we are.

[Leicesterbaggie]

I think you're missing my point.

A lot of media attention is given to immigrants arriving by boat, yet hardly any to those who overstay their visas. And the figures would suggest that is the area of high numbers of immigrants to be looking at. And Priti Patel is talking about sending gunboats and the Navy in - for the area of immigration that is minimal. Its pure PR posturing.

And also, you're talking about 'illegal'. Do you think people who risk their lives in dangerous dinghies on choppy waters in November care about if they do something that is legal or not? Politicians, such as Johnson and Patel, see this issue as a vote winner for them. And here we are.

They may not care so that makes it OK then. It's a good job we all don't take that attitude.

[WBA123]

They may not care so that makes it OK then. It's a good job we all don't take that attitude.

Our Government don't care, they're as crooked as it gets. And you voted for them in the last election.

[stripes39]

And also, you're talking about 'illegal'. Do you think people who risk their lives in dangerous dinghies on choppy waters in November care about if they do something that is legal or not? Politicians, such as Johnson and Patel, see this issue as a vote winner for them. And here we are.

They do risk their lives in many cases that is true. I also agree that the right sort of immigration has bought big benefits to this country.

Why though do the vast majority who take these dinghies travel from different continents crossing perfectly safe and respectable countries where they can also claim asylum such as Austria, Germany, France and Italy (to name a few) only to put their lives at such risk on a very dangerous stretch of water?

There lies a big part of the problem for many.

[WBA123]

They do risk their lives in many cases that is true. I also agree that the right sort of immigration has bought big benefits to this country.

Why though do the vast majority who take these dinghies travel from different continents crossing perfectly safe and respectable countries where they can also claim asylum such as Austria, Germany, France and Italy (to name a few) only to put their lives at such risk on a very dangerous stretch of water?

There lies a big part of the problem for many.

There lies one of the issues, the vast majority do claim asylum in these countries. We take a small minority compared with what Europe do. More misleading news from our unethical and deceitful press.

The reasons why the minority come here....they can probably have closer ties/roots with this country such as they speak the language, have contacts here maybe even a place to stay, and because of this - have more opportunity here. Its nothing to do with benefits, our benefits system isn't much different from France, Spain or Germany's. If you've gone to all the trouble of making it to Calais from the Middle East or Africa, it probably seems like a small step further to get to the UK and give yourself a platform for a better life.

[baggieal]

What you don't appear to understand 123 is the word illegal. If in all other areas of society we ignored the laws, we'd be in a right mess! You state that most of those who remain do so because their visas have expired and haven't come on dingys. So that's OK then, and overstaying your visa is not illegal? I'm sorry, but I don't understand your reasoning.

Try overstaying your visa in the USA or Australia but hey - they are not soft like this country and get rid!