Nowt personal against yak. There are lots of people raise money for charity me included. I am anti war does that make me wrong? We're all the losses on both sides in Afghanistan worth it? Yak is not god as some seem to think on here just another human being. We are all doing our bit to create a better world hopefully. I find yaks comments about my sort being offensive but nobody defends me. He doesn't even know me. The thing is this thread needs closing not cos i want to ban free speech before someone gets the titty lip on but because it degenerates into the same old boring arguments.you know my views and I know yours either bring summat else to the table or close the fecker and we can all get on again and talk about the millers.