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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    .......as fans we have to understand that when a high offer comes in for a player, it is sometimes in our interest to sell. We have consistently got that wrong. Evans we could have sold for £25m+, we got £3m.
    Completely agree our scouting, recruitment and sell on strategy are in desperate need of an overhaul.

    We couldn't have even signed Evans without the £3M release clause though so we were never getting £25M for him. Hence my point to 9 about being able to debate the viability of signing players with such release clauses.

    As for Berahino the fee offered was two frogs and a conker with the rest spread across a number of clauses on a layaway plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    Completely agree our scouting, recruitment and sell on strategy are in desperate need of an overhaul.

    We couldn't have even signed Evans without the £3M release clause though so we were never getting £25M for him. Hence my point to 9 about being able to debate the viability of signing players with such release clauses.

    As for Berahino the fee offered was two frogs and a conker with the rest spread across a number of clauses on a layaway plan.
    Berahino payment structure from Spurs is a typical way transfers are arranged. A £25m fee for example is usually split over 2-3-4 years rather than up front. Up front payments are very rare.

    Evans, I'm a bit hazy was it not £3m release clause, if we were relegated? I think the year before we were relegated Arsenal and Man City were sniffing around him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Berahino payment structure from Spurs is a typical way transfers are arranged. A £25m fee for example is usually split over 2-3-4 years rather than up front. Up front payments are very rare.

    Evans, I'm a bit hazy was it not £3m release clause, if we were relegated? I think the year before we were relegated Arsenal and Man City were sniffing around him.
    There was indeed a relegation clause. Also why set the release figure so low about half of what we paid.

    Ferguson: Who thought it was a good idea to let it go to tribunal. Has a selling club ever been happy with the agreed amount?

    Pereira: Proven Premier performer sold for half of what Villa paid for unproven Norwich player.

    Johnstone: Is anyone confident we will get a favourable deal?

    You can argue the individual rights and wrongs it's the collective where we always seem to end up on the wrong side of the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9goals2hattricks3pen View Post
    There was indeed a relegation clause. Also why set the release figure so low about half of what we paid.

    Ferguson: Who thought it was a good idea to let it go to tribunal. Has a selling club ever been happy with the agreed amount?

    Pereira: Proven Premier performer sold for half of what Villa paid for unproven Norwich player.

    Johnstone: Is anyone confident we will get a favourable deal?

    You can argue the individual rights and wrongs it's the collective where we always seem to end up on the wrong side of the deal.
    The one I don't mind on that list is Periera.

    At least we made a decent piece of profit on him, and he performed well on the pitch whilst he was here.

    There are very few signings we make, which make us a profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    The one I don't mind on that list is Periera.

    At least we made a decent piece of profit on him, and he performed well on the pitch whilst he was here.

    There are very few signings we make, which make us a profit.
    Profit yes. Maximum profit or even close?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Berahino payment structure from Spurs is a typical way transfers are arranged. A £25m fee for example is usually split over 2-3-4 years rather than up front. Up front payments are very rare.

    Evans, I'm a bit hazy was it not £3m release clause, if we were relegated? I think the year before we were relegated Arsenal and Man City were sniffing around him.
    I know how transfers and payments are structured but thanks for the recap. The way Levy structured the Berahino deal was such that we'd have been lucky to see anywhere near the figure you've quoted.

    The final offer only came in several hours before the end of the window. The initial payment would have been in the region of £4M upfront rising to £12.5M.

    The rest of the fee was made up of clauses relating to club and international goals and appearances, Champions League qualifications and success in domestic trophies etc. ad nauseam.

    I think you're correct regarding the relegation part of the release clause and we were in fact relegated following a largely indifferent level of performances from Evans than we were accustomed to.

    A very rotten egg (in my opinion) in a post Darren Fletcher dressing room that turned in on itself thanks to boredom with Pulis and ridicule for Pardew and 'Best Coach in the World' Carver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    I know how transfers and payments are structured but thanks for the recap. The way Levy structured the Berahino deal was such that we'd have been lucky to see anywhere near the figure you've quoted.

    The final offer only came in several hours before the end of the window. The initial payment would have been in the region of £4M upfront rising to £12.5M.

    The rest of the fee was made up of clauses relating to club and international goals and appearances, Champions League qualifications and success in domestic trophies etc. ad nauseam.

    I think you're correct regarding the relegation part of the release clause and we were in fact relegated following a largely indifferent level of performances from Evans than we were accustomed to.

    A very rotten egg (in my opinion) in a post Darren Fletcher dressing room that turned in on itself thanks to boredom with Pulis and ridicule for Pardew and 'Best Coach in the World' Carver.
    Well I didn't know that re Berahino. I didn't realise it was the fee itself that was the issue. I thought it was the structure of payments at the time.

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