wolves are top of the table

[soulman101]

The vaccine table, all their players over the age of 18 will have the double and booster by the Ist couple of weeks in January. Praise where praise is due. Setting the standard.
The Germans are docking players wages if they miss training or matches, if they don't follow the guidelines.

[mickd1961]

Well done the Dingles.

[WBA1955]

Last year we were all told to get double jabbed and life would return to normal, eigh**** months down the line we are no better off than then. Masks social distancing and another jab required and probably another lockdown in January.
What have these jabs done to stop the spread of Covid? This was the reason we had them.

[mickd1961]

Last year we were all told to get double jabbed and life would return to normal, eigh**** months down the line we are no better off than then. Masks social distancing and another jab required and probably another lockdown in January.
What have these jabs done to stop the spread of Covid? This was the reason we had them.

For a highly intelligent man you do ask some daft questions time and again Des.

The jabs are to mitigate your chances or becoming seriously ill and needing hospital or the ICU department.

I honestly can't believe that this is having to be repeated time after time, why can't people get it!?


The potential problem with Omicron is that it's infection numbers are doubling every two days so if today is 100,000 infections, two days later you have a further 200,000 infections and the day after that you have 400,000 new infections.

Then you quickly move from 2million, to 4 million to 8 million to 16 million to 32 million to 64 million people potentially having Omicron.

Previously we had a few hundred thousand with Covid at worst and a small % of them getting really sick and dying and overwhelming the NHS whilst they suffered and died.

With Omicron, if you have 20 or 30 million people catching it quickly and only the same tiny % get sick to the point they need hospital then the numbers are catastrophic in terms of handling capacity.

10% of 20 million is 2 million, 1% is 200,000 people, 0.1% is still 20,000 people needing hospital Des.........our NHS couldn't cope and that's if only one in every 1000 Omicron sufferers get really sick.

I understand the maths......its the transmission rate of Omicron which is the scary thing, not the virulence of this strain.

[mickd1961]

Thought there was nothing to see with this omicron strain ?

I don't think there is and I've clearly stated that on the Omicron thread which is why you're trying to be a smart a r se with your little comment.

The only thing to "see" is the rapid transmissibility........my own personal point is that I don't think it will turn out to create the hospital numbers that the government seem to think but I do understand why they feel the need to be so cautious, if they get the call wrong it'll be their a r s e s getting kicked.

[DaveP67 is back!]

For a highly intelligent man you do ask some daft questions time and again Des.

The jabs are to mitigate your chances or becoming seriously ill and needing hospital or the ICU department.

I honestly can't believe that this is having to be repeated time after time, why can't people get it!?


The potential problem with Omicron is that it's infection numbers are doubling every two days so if today is 100,000 infections, two days later you have a further 200,000 infections and the day after that you have 400,000 new infections.

Then you quickly move from 2million, to 4 million to 8 million to 16 million to 32 million to 64 million people potentially having Omicron.

Previously we had a few hundred thousand with Covid at worst and a small % of them getting really sick and dying and overwhelming the NHS whilst they suffered and died.

With Omicron, if you have 20 or 30 million people catching it quickly and only the same tiny % get sick to the point they need hospital then the numbers are catastrophic in terms of handling capacity.

10% of 20 million is 2 million, 1% is 200,000 people, 0.1% is still 20,000 people needing hospital Des.........our NHS couldn't cope and that's if only one in every 1000 Omicron sufferers get really sick.

I understand the maths......its the transmission rate of Omicron which is the scary thing, not the virulence of this strain.

Correct isn’t the potency but the transmission rate of Omicron that is the issue. Think potency of the flu but 10x more people get it = NHS buggered!!

[kettering_baggie]

The government needs to be seen to be doing something positive to take people’s minds off their Christmas ‘parties’ of last year. I expect that they think that if the vaccination programme goes well and the doomsday forecast doesn’t come to pass, then they (Boris in particular) will receive nothing but plaudits and all the other **** will be forgotten!

[WBA1955]

For a highly intelligent man you do ask some daft questions time and again Des.

The jabs are to mitigate your chances or becoming seriously ill and needing hospital or the ICU department.

I honestly can't believe that this is having to be repeated time after time, why can't people get it!?


The potential problem with Omicron is that it's infection numbers are doubling every two days so if today is 100,000 infections, two days later you have a further 200,000 infections and the day after that you have 400,000 new infections.

Then you quickly move from 2million, to 4 million to 8 million to 16 million to 32 million to 64 million people potentially having Omicron.

Previously we had a few hundred thousand with Covid at worst and a small % of them getting really sick and dying and overwhelming the NHS whilst they suffered and died.

With Omicron, if you have 20 or 30 million people catching it quickly and only the same tiny % get sick to the point they need hospital then the numbers are catastrophic in terms of handling capacity.

10% of 20 million is 2 million, 1% is 200,000 people, 0.1% is still 20,000 people needing hospital Des.........our NHS couldn't cope and that's if only one in every 1000 Omicron sufferers get really sick.

I understand the maths......its the transmission rate of Omicron which is the scary thing, not the virulence of this strain.

I understand all of that Mick but you are missing my point. 18 months ago everyone was praying for a vaccine so we could all get back to normal. We were told that the first dose was 75% effective and the second dose 95% effective against Covid.
If you recall at the time I said I doubted very much whether it would be that effective. Nevertheless I had my injections in an attempt to relieve pressure on the NHS. But now we appear to be back to square one. Covid is spreading faster than ever despite the vaccine programme. The only reason it fell was because of lockdown.
Two people in our pub went down despite the vaccination, my cousin has been double jabbed and has been poorly for weeks, they say Jethro had three jab's and still died.
My point is that vaccinations don't appear to be as effective as what people are being told otherwise there wouldn't be record numbers of people going down with it.
The good news is it so far appears to be less severe than the delta strain.

[phild]

"North Koreans are banned from LAUGHING or drinking for 11 days to mark tenth anniversary of former leader Kim Jong Il's death"

You gorra loff at this headline in the Daily Mail today. I think we in this country can still laugh but we are told not to sing so we are not too far behind

[Yarmbaggie]

The other point to not forget is that as strains of the virus become widespread inevitably some of them mutate. Omicron is a mutation of previous Covid virus.

The more Omicron there is the more chances it has of mutating. Will the new mutation be worse than omicron or indeed delta? No one knows but if it mutates it is by definition different and could itself take over from omicron as the top strain.