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    Quote Originally Posted by regis80 View Post
    You are right, you can’t sort the nhs out in two years but there wouldn’t be any harm to start putting in systems, infrastructure etc in place now (even if they are plans) as a contingency? No harm in long term planning. Sadly we have corruption going on that individuals are looking to profit by awarding contracts, and this is put before peoples health. We wasted how much on the field hospitals? And now we’re made out to believe with hysteria and panic that this variant is a lot worse than before. Then bring back these field hospitals.

    I’m sure many people would rather we have nhs funded than the hs2. That £350M a week going to the NHS promise?

    With recruiting, Yes it all depends on people availability. I’d use money to give bursaries to train people up in the UK to do the jobs. I can only talk of a few friends who in their 30s retrained to become nurses. Hospital Doctors and GPs are another trickier matter to try instill to get new medicine graduates (home grown), but we can still do it if we wanted. We can stop relying on overseas doctors as it’s not sustainable.

    That said make these jobs for nurses more lucrative by at least giving the rewards they desperately deserve. Let’s give the money away to our pals though, that’s better spent.
    There are bursaries up to £5k per year for nurses in training. I wouldn't read too much into nurse pay, it's a well paid, rewarding but hard job. They are on similar salaries to counterparts with similar skills such as police, teachers, paramedics, radiographers etc. and they are decent careers. Because they work 3 x 12 hour shifts, they usually get the option of picking up the 4th shift for decent pay and with night payments, they can easily clear £35k PA right from qualifying.

    The amount of programmes for nursing and docs is decided centrally and they conduct longer term planning to offer out what is needed. The problem is about 6% of those out of medical school are choosing to not go into the profession. There is a glorified view of what a doctor is but it's bloody hard work and mentally draining as many realise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    There are bursaries up to £5k per year for nurses in training. I wouldn't read too much into nurse pay, it's a well paid, rewarding but hard job. They are on similar salaries to counterparts with similar skills such as police, teachers, paramedics, radiographers etc. and they are decent careers. Because they work 3 x 12 hour shifts, they usually get the option of picking up the 4th shift for decent pay and with night payments, they can easily clear £35k PA right from qualifying.

    The amount of programmes for nursing and docs is decided centrally and they conduct longer term planning to offer out what is needed. The problem is about 6% of those out of medical school are choosing to not go into the profession. There is a glorified view of what a doctor is but it's bloody hard work and mentally draining as many realise.

    Have you been having a drink Matt - doctors - it's bloody hard work and draining The only draining part of a doctors job is to gulp back a nice glass of red when they look at their fat bank balance. GP'S are a disgrace and most have not been seen for two years unless one is dying and then you are quizzed by their reception staff on the merits of an emergency appointment. A complete shambles. Every other f ucker has to go back to work including those medical staff and consultants in ICU.

    10/10 for those who work in hospitals
    0/10 for those GP'S who have been useless in this pandemic and actually contributed to deaths through lack of check ups, referrals and giving the green light for blood tests for much needed results.

    Sad the focus for 2 years has been on Covid resulting in life and death operations being cancelled as well as mental health issues going through the roof. Oh - but there's no data on that!

    F uck a cancer operation but Omicron is coming to get you which is like a cold to the vast majority!

    Good post Regis by the way and you are right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Have you been having a drink Matt - doctors - it's bloody hard work and draining The only draining part of a doctors job is to gulp back a nice glass of red when they look at their fat bank balance. GP'S are a disgrace and most have not been seen for two years unless one is dying and then you are quizzed by their reception staff on the merits of an emergency appointment. A complete shambles. Every other f ucker has to go back to work including those medical staff and consultants in ICU.

    10/10 for those who work in hospitals
    0/10 for those GP'S who have been useless in this pandemic and actually contributed to deaths through lack of check ups, referrals and giving the green light for blood tests for much needed results.

    Sad the focus for 2 years has been on Covid resulting in life and death operations being cancelled as well as mental health issues going through the roof. Oh - but there's no data on that!

    F uck a cancer operation but Omicron is coming to get you which is like a cold to the vast majority!

    Good post Regis by the way and you are right!
    I did mean those in hospitals Al. I fully agree on your comments around GP's who have moved to a completely poor service.

    But to explain, even GP's have to go through training in a hospital on rotation. They end up working incredible hours as junior doctors. It breaks quite a few, which is probably why some go into GP land for a much easier life!

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