Every day the vaccine rolls out

[VanDerHoorn]

Unless it's not, by which I mean the virus could kill you.

But, your point is a good one and it's something I agree with. I think things need to change in order to cope with the potential for yearly waves of this, whatever that may be. Going on as we are is just not feasible long term, IMHO.

Death is a part of life, which is the part I think we have forgotten,

The government seems to be hell bent on keeping covid-related hospital admissions below 3000 (U.K. wide). For that they are destroying lives and livelihoods.

Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.

[BackRowArab]

Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.

They probably could have done that if they hadn't kicked a ton of the nurses out of the country to appease the racists

[TerryTheTerror]

Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.

Totally agree. If this visit increases reliance on the NHS at winter then the capacity needs to be there to cope with whatever it needs to be.

But, are we all prepared to pay higher taxes to cover the cost?

[TerryTheTerror]

Death is a part of life, which is the part I think we have forgotten.

This is an easy thing to say when your aren't faced with death yourself or that of a loved one when you know it could be prevented.

[VanDerHoorn]

This is an easy thing to say when your aren't faced with death yourself or that of a loved one when you know it could be prevented.

The same could be said about cancer patients who have missed treatments because of focus on covid. Or people who have committed suicide because their business/marriage/mental health has been destroyed by the lockdowns and restrictions.

It’s important that we are compassionate about preserving lives but the hyper focus on preventing covid deaths at all costs is the problem. There needs to be a rebalancing.

[Chick A Saw]

Death is a part of life, which is the part I think we have forgotten,

The government seems to be hell bent on keeping covid-related hospital admissions below 3000 (U.K. wide). For that they are destroying lives and livelihoods.

Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.

But there are 8008 in hospital uk wide as reported yesterday.

[Chick A Saw]

They probably could have done that if they hadn't kicked a ton of the nurses out of the country to appease the racists

And tried to prevent so many leaving the NHS over the last year.

[arab777]

The same could be said about cancer patients who have missed treatments because of focus on covid. Or people who have committed suicide because their business/marriage/mental health has been destroyed by the lockdowns and restrictions.

It’s important that we are compassionate about preserving lives but the hyper focus on preventing covid deaths at all costs is the problem. There needs to be a rebalancing.

Obviously other patient care has suffered during the pandemic but if attention was more focused away from COVID the NHS could then be overwhelmed with COVID cases and staff absences. The more people end up in hospital due to COVID the more resources and beds are taken away from other priorities so it is not an either or. It is already a complex balancing act.

BTW like your user name. Great player.

[VanDerHoorn]

But there are 8008 in hospital uk wide as reported yesterday.

Yeah wrong numbers. Actually 6000 in hospital at the moment https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Whatever the number the principle is the same; instead of restrictions to keep the NHS at capacity it would be more logical to increase NHS capacity,

[TerryTheTerror]

The same could be said about cancer patients who have missed treatments because of focus on covid.

Of course and in fact I know someone going through this that's worried about that exact thing.

Ultimately the NHS needs funded enough to cope with everything, it's the only way we will get back to what was normal before. The stupidity of Brexit really hasn't helped with this though (sorry to medium term at least).

For me it's stark. We boost the NHS to cope with this indefinitely or we need to live differently.