Match Thread vs. Bromley FC 29.01.22 [NL]

[Elite_Pie]

And… your point is?

Possibly that managers who get it right in the first place don't have to make too many changes.

We still seem to be struggling to find an effective approach to away games.

[Killerkline]

Possibly that managers who get it right in the first place don't have to make too many changes.

We still seem to be struggling to find an effective approach to away games.

I’m not sure ‘that’s what managers get paid to do’ equates to that.

Anyway I highlighted the change as it demonstrates that Burchnall is willing to change/adapt. His basic philosophy will remain the same.

As for away games, we are.

[LaxtonLad]

When I arrived at KL, I thought it a strange move. However, Burchnall believed that we’d have a lot of the ball and Roberts in that position would make use of the possession. It clearly didn’t work and he changed it at half time. This demonstrates Burchnall is willing to change if a plan isn’t working.

Whichever way you look at that Roberts "tactic" it was never going to work, playing a goalscorer in a semi-defensive/midfield role was a waste of 45 minutes when it's obvious his talents lie in front of the enemy's goal. It should not have taken IB until half time to see that his ploy wasn't working.

[Killerkline]

Whichever way you look at that Roberts "tactic" it was never going to work, playing a goalscorer in a semi-defensive/midfield role was a waste of 45 minutes when it's obvious his talents lie in front of the enemy's goal. It should not have taken IB until half time to see that his ploy wasn't working.

I didn’t believe it would work.

However, Burchnall didn’t view the role as semi - defensive/midfield. He viewed it as attacking, Roberts getting a lot of the ball. Refer back to Dagenham at home.

It didn’t work, he changed it, we won. No drama.

[laddo]

I didn’t believe it would work.

However, Burchnall didn’t view the role as semi - defensive/midfield. He viewed it as attacking, Roberts getting a lot of the ball. Refer back to Dagenham at home.

It didn’t work, he changed it, we won. No drama.

Great summary.

There have been plenty of examples of things not working and IB reacting and changing them quicker than any manager I can remember in games. Now he needs to solve the 3 season problem of away matches to take us to the next level. There is no reason he can't, it's not an easy problem to solve no matter what the armchair fans think.

[durhampie]

And… your point is?

Being able to change the system if it doesn't work. This is applies to every manager, its not just a Burchnall thing...But, we seem to be changing it more often than not, which suggests we didn't get it right in the first place...So, all of this training we do to in readiness for each individual game is proven to be a load of crap..

[magpie_mania]

I’ll try and enlighten you.

When our owners arrived there was very limited time until the start of the season, days if memory servers me right. To have made a managerial change at this juncture, with all the other issues the club were facing, would have been catastrophic. The aim was to get the club on on a sound footing. Ardley was viewed as a relatively safe pair of hands, fit for purpose. Overall, considering our starting point, the season was a relative success. Despite the disappointing play off performance.

A combination of Ardley deserving a second season, COVID uncertainty and the right candidate(in the owners eyes) being available resulted in no change.

The change of manager ultimately took place due to Burchnall becoming available. Our owners believed he complimented their vision for the club. Making the change when they did gave Burchnall the remainder of the season to survey and prepare for this season.

You suggest Burchnall’s football is no more effective than Ardley’s, I disagree. Under Ardley, certainly towards the end of his tenure, we became very reliant on spectacular strikes to rescue games. In the main this season, we have created numerous opportunities.

Prior to our last 2 games, the league table told a different story. I’m pretty sure the picture will change again come the weekend and on many more occasions before the season ends. Your view and time of judgement is very short sighted.

Ultimately, your view of the situation hasn’t been proven to be correct or disproven. This will not be confirmed until our season is over.

I agree with almost everything, just not sure about Burchnall being appointed when he became available. Didn't he leave his previous job in the summer then join us around 6 months later?

Still think the timing was a bit surprising.

[irishpete]

I agree with almost everything, just not sure about Burchnall being appointed when he became available. Didn't he leave his previous job in the summer then join us around 6 months later?

Still think the timing was a bit surprising.

He was free & being eyed by various clubs including Barnsley, that's why Notts made their move. Owners words at the time

[magpie_mania]

He was free & being eyed by various clubs including Barnsley, that's why Notts made their move. Owners words at the time

I know. Point is if we got him because he was available, why not 6 months earlier?

[Killerkline]

Being able to change the system if it doesn't work. This is applies to every manager, its not just a Burchnall thing...But, we seem to be changing it more often than not, which suggests we didn't get it right in the first place...So, all of this training we do to in readiness for each individual game is proven to be a load of crap..

So, the point I was making is correct… he can adapt. At no point did I suggest it was a ‘Burchnall thing’.

I haven’t got the stats, but I don’t believe we have changed it more often than not. If Burchnall does change it and we win, what’s the issue?

Why’s the training that we do proven to be a ‘load of crap’? Do you think we only train for one formation?

If the opposition take an approach to combat our formation, we may need to change.