O/T Metropole Hotel Blackpool, Full of Refugees

[Ronners]

Is there any wonder that this site is becoming boring?... 'ave a word with him Ronners and tell him to get laid ffs.

I dont think that will work either sota. 😉

[rolymiller]

I dont think that will work either sota. ��

Its been boring with right wing crack pots for a long time Sota!

Good cause, get paid up GM you aint no answer as per!

Very few right wing opinions on herehave any evidence to back up that opinion. Kerr to his credit tries but is hopelessly out of his depth.The rest just use made up nonsense or no evidence at all. Why bother with schools, colleges and universities eh when we can get the views of Grist and GM etc instead!

Save a lot of money on education I reckon!

[gm_gm]

You’re comparing apples with coconuts gm. what you said was “ They get really good money for housing migrants, 4 or 5 times more than your standard paying guest” Normal guests don’t need security or monitoring, so how can you justify claiming those costs in a comparison?

I think we have found where you keep the sugar

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-taxpayer.html

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

£5 or £125, show that to a UK homeless person.

The Salvation Army in their Christmas appeal were asking for £19 from donors that they calculated would pay for 1 night off the street for 1 homeless person.

[John2]

I think we have found where you keep the sugar

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-taxpayer.html

Entirely predictable you get your information from sources like the Daily Mail.

I actually think it's good you've attempted to justify a baseless claim you made some time ago, and I don't want to put you off doing so in the future, but this is still highly flawed.

We know from the figures that the average cost per night is far far below this.

It's no surprise that in some instances more expensive accommodation is used. This example cherry-picked by a newspaper with a very strong bias is provided with very little context - you need to think more critically rather than blindly taking in this stuff without the full picture. This is a sensationalised figure designed to elicit exactly the type of reaction it clearly does in the likes of you and grist.

Even still, with your lowest figure of 4x, that's implying the 4* hotels get £31.25 a night for a standard paying guest.

You clearly plucked your original figures from thin air, still no source as to where you got them from?

Using an article from 8 January, do you want us to think you had access to a time machine?

[gm_gm]

Entirely predictable you get your information from sources like the Daily Mail.

I actually think it's good you've attempted to justify a baseless claim you made some time ago, and I don't want to put you off doing so in the future, but this is still highly flawed.

We know from the figures that the average cost per night is far far below this.

It's no surprise that in some instances more expensive accommodation is used. This example cherry-picked by a newspaper with a very strong bias is provided with very little context - you need to think more critically rather than blindly taking in this stuff without the full picture. This is a sensationalised figure designed to elicit exactly the type of reaction it clearly does in the likes of you and grist.

Even still, with your lowest figure of 4x, that's implying the 4* hotels get £31.25 a night for a standard paying guest.

You clearly plucked your original figures from thin air, still no source as to where you got them from?

Using an article from 8 January, do you want us to think you had access to a time machine?

sorry john this is an article in the public domain, you should pay the £100 to the hospice as you agreed and then take the DM to court if you are saying they are lying.

Dont be a sore loser

[John2]

sorry john this is an article in the public domain, you should pay the £100 to the hospice as you agreed and then take the DM to court if you are saying they are lying.

Dont be a sore loser

It doesn't prove what you claimed though, does it?

Copy and paste the part that confirms that migrant stays pay 4-5 more than a standard paying guest.

OR, I'll generously allow you to provide a source that confirms the average paying guest in a UK 4* hotel pays £31.25 or less, then I'll gladly donate.

If not I suggest you donate, sounds fair?

Which solution are you going to go for I wonder, my guess is doing another disappearing act.

[gm_gm]

It doesn't prove what you claimed though, does it?

Copy and paste the part that confirms that migrant stays pay 4-5 more than a standard paying guest.

OR, I'll generously allow you to provide a source that confirms the average paying guest in a UK 4* hotel pays £31.25 or less, then I'll gladly donate.

If not I suggest you donate, sounds fair?

Which solution are you going to go for I wonder, my guess is doing another disappearing act.

It proves everything, pay up and admit defeat you can be wrong John ( you usually are) it’s ok ...this pretence that you have an image to protect is silly

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

It proves everything, pay up and admit defeat you can be wrong John ( you usually are) it’s ok ...this pretence that you have an image to protect is silly

I see there’s been some clarification on this point

In a report to MPs yesterday there are 37,000 Afghan refugees and asylum seekers for whom we are providing accommodation in hotels for at a cost of £1.2 million per day.

Today that figure was revised and clarified after some MPs questioned it. It was revised to £4.7 million per day

So approx £127 per person per day

So that’s £1715 million per year if asylum and refugee numbers are maintained at 37,000 ( they are in fact rising)

Which put into perspective in Rotherham, the Council’s current budget is £221 million and is funded from £110 million Council Tax, £72 million Business Rates and £39million Government funding.

Broken down to:-

£66m on Children and Young People's Service
£77m on Adult Care, Housing and Public Health
£43m on Regeneration and Environment Services
£12m on Central Services
£16m on Finance and Customer Services
£7m on Assistant Chief Executive portfolio

Further perspective, National Insurance is going up to ringfence money for social care and council tax is rising in most areas

[avondalemiller]

I see there’s been some clarification on this point

In a report to MPs yesterday there are 37,000 Afghan refugees and asylum seekers for whom we are providing accommodation in hotels for at a cost of £1.2 million per day.

Today that figure was revised and clarified after some MPs questioned it. It was revised to £4.7 million per day

So approx £127 per person per day

So that’s £1715 million per year if asylum and refugee numbers are maintained at 37,000 ( they are in fact rising)

Which put into perspective in Rotherham, the Council’s current budget is £221 million and is funded from £110 million Council Tax, £72 million Business Rates and £39million Government funding.

Broken down to:-

£66m on Children and Young People's Service
£77m on Adult Care, Housing and Public Health
£43m on Regeneration and Environment Services
£12m on Central Services
£16m on Finance and Customer Services
£7m on Assistant Chief Executive portfolio

Further perspective, National Insurance is going up to ringfence money for social care and council tax is rising in most areas

....if those figures are correct, (not doubting you) then it's really frightening.....