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  1. #1
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    First time I've left ML feeling angry for a while. There's been games this season where I've been disappointed with the result, but felt we played well, but yesterday after 25ish mins we were utter dog sh1te.

    We need to be more clinical in front of goal. It's a big problem. Other teams have regularly scored 3, 4 and 5, but we don't, despite creating plenty of chances. We should have been 3 up inside 25 mins and the game put to bed.

    Rodrigues and Wootton in particular lacked energy and enthusiasm. Wootton was second to everything, failed to anticipate most things and never won a header. Why oh why, was he allowed to keep dropping so deep? Someone should have been screaming at him to stay at the half way line.

    Rodrigues just didn't look interested. There was a loose ball played square in the first half where if he'd been on his toes could've intercepted, but he was caught flat footed and too late to react. I thought that summed up his performance.

    5 minutes into the second half, it was clear their high press was causing us all kinds of problems, so why did we persist? It was crying out to go more direct.

    All in all a very gutless performance, lacking in energy and desire with a thoroughly deserved win for Grimsby. Very frustrating and a million miles from where they need to be. Simply not good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertomac View Post
    First time I've left ML feeling angry for a while. There's been games this season where I've been disappointed with the result, but felt we played well, but yesterday after 25ish mins we were utter dog sh1te.

    We need to be more clinical in front of goal. It's a big problem. Other teams have regularly scored 3, 4 and 5, but we don't, despite creating plenty of chances. We should have been 3 up inside 25 mins and the game put to bed.

    Rodrigues and Wootton in particular lacked energy and enthusiasm. Wootton was second to everything, failed to anticipate most things and never won a header. Why oh why, was he allowed to keep dropping so deep? Someone should have been screaming at him to stay at the half way line.

    Rodrigues just didn't look interested. There was a loose ball played square in the first half where if he'd been on his toes could've intercepted, but he was caught flat footed and too late to react. I thought that summed up his performance.

    5 minutes into the second half, it was clear their high press was causing us all kinds of problems, so why did we persist? It was crying out to go more direct.

    All in all a very gutless performance, lacking in energy and desire with a thoroughly deserved win for Grimsby. Very frustrating and a million miles from where they need to be. Simply not good enough.
    Spot on analysis
    Ruben just couldn't be arsed and it showed
    Brunt was non existent and looked slow and unfit
    Wootton looked disinterested
    It was crying out for changes to personnel and tactics at half time. Notts didn't touch the ball for the first ten mins of the second half and the writing was on the wall.
    Credit to Grimsby, i thought they played extremely well once they'd worked out Notts would play themselves into trouble with the high press. And also the following they had was incredible
    We need to go back to Palmer Vinny and Francis in the middle
    Get some legs in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowpie View Post
    Spot on analysis
    Ruben just couldn't be arsed and it showed
    Brunt was non existent and looked slow and unfit
    Wootton looked disinterested
    It was crying out for changes to personnel and tactics at half time. Notts didn't touch the ball for the first ten mins of the second half and the writing was on the wall.
    Credit to Grimsby, i thought they played extremely well once they'd worked out Notts would play themselves into trouble with the high press. And also the following they had was incredible
    We need to go back to Palmer Vinny and Francis in the middle
    Get some legs in there
    Agreed. It seems as though IB is under instruction to play these loan players.. If i was Vincent i would tell them all get lost..

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    Quote Originally Posted by durhampie View Post
    Agreed. It seems as though IB is under instruction to play these loan players.. If i was Vincent i would tell them all get lost..
    absolutely. Why bring in loan players that do not improve the squad? Owners instructions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uysapie View Post
    absolutely. Why bring in loan players that do not improve the squad? Owners instructions?
    Maybe under previous owners you could think this but the whole identity of the club under the Danes is to bring in players like Vincent, play them and sell them on for a profit. Why on earth would they tell Burchnall to drop a player like him for a loan player that has no value to us once their loan is up?

    Most fans have only seen one game from Brunt, and with the reputation he came with (which he seems to have built in this league, THIS season) I'd say it might be a bit early to be writing him off. Likewise with Jayden Richardson, who i thought was a bit quieter on saturday but has looked brilliant in other appearances and Patto was absolutey a better option than Slocombe.

    It's only really Parsons that's looked a bit of a waste of a loan so I'm not sure it's too much to complain about yet.

    As for Jaros, think I must have watched a different game to some on here. He has to come out and get something on the ball as Brindley lets his man get in front of him and without Jaros getting to it he's got a tap in, it's unlucky it falls to their man instead of a defender but he did about as much as he could. He looked assertive in all of his decisions other than that shot from range he fumbled wide but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say it could have been the wind or a deflection. He came off his line when needed for crosses, the second goal was absolutely not the time to come out for it, the replay from behind the goal shows the cross was miles away from him, he has to rely on his defenders and they didn't win the first or second ball.

    Based on Cal Roberts' reaction I'd say the coaching staff should shoulder a good part of the blame for the second as he seemed to be asking why he was marking their big number 5 and generally either didn't know what he was doing or didn't want to be doing what he'd been instructed as he came over to the touchline after the goal and was livid with one of the coaches (not I

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    Based on Cal Roberts' reaction I'd say the coaching staff should shoulder a good part of the blame for the second as he seemed to be asking why he was marking their big number 5 and generally either didn't know what he was doing or didn't want to be doing what he'd been instructed as he came over to the touchline after the goal and was livid with one of the coaches (not IB )
    Good point, and probably one for our set piece coach to answer. He's had praise for improving things, but what happened there? If I remember correctly, Eli Sam was part of the wall with Cal Roberts marking giants on the far post. If so, can anyone explain the logic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    Maybe under previous owners you could think this but the whole identity of the club under the Danes is to bring in players like Vincent, play them and sell them on for a profit. Why on earth would they tell Burchnall to drop a player like him for a loan player that has no value to us once their loan is up?

    Most fans have only seen one game from Brunt, and with the reputation he came with (which he seems to have built in this league, THIS season) I'd say it might be a bit early to be writing him off. Likewise with Jayden Richardson, who i thought was a bit quieter on saturday but has looked brilliant in other appearances and Patto was absolutey a better option than Slocombe.

    It's only really Parsons that's looked a bit of a waste of a loan so I'm not sure it's too much to complain about yet.

    As for Jaros, think I must have watched a different game to some on here. He has to come out and get something on the ball as Brindley lets his man get in front of him and without Jaros getting to it he's got a tap in, it's unlucky it falls to their man instead of a defender but he did about as much as he could. He looked assertive in all of his decisions other than that shot from range he fumbled wide but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say it could have been the wind or a deflection. He came off his line when needed for crosses, the second goal was absolutely not the time to come out for it, the replay from behind the goal shows the cross was miles away from him, he has to rely on his defenders and they didn't win the first or second ball.

    Based on Cal Roberts' reaction I'd say the coaching staff should shoulder a good part of the blame for the second as he seemed to be asking why he was marking their big number 5 and generally either didn't know what he was doing or didn't want to be doing what he'd been instructed as he came over to the touchline after the goal and was livid with one of the coaches (not I
    He made that comment during his MOTM speech in the Wheelers suite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    Maybe under previous owners you could think this but the whole identity of the club under the Danes is to bring in players like Vincent, play them and sell them on for a profit. Why on earth would they tell Burchnall to drop a player like him for a loan player that has no value to us once their loan is up?

    Most fans have only seen one game from Brunt, and with the reputation he came with (which he seems to have built in this league, THIS season) I'd say it might be a bit early to be writing him off. Likewise with Jayden Richardson, who i thought was a bit quieter on saturday but has looked brilliant in other appearances and Patto was absolutey a better option than Slocombe.

    It's only really Parsons that's looked a bit of a waste of a loan so I'm not sure it's too much to complain about yet.

    As for Jaros, think I must have watched a different game to some on here. He has to come out and get something on the ball as Brindley lets his man get in front of him and without Jaros getting to it he's got a tap in, it's unlucky it falls to their man instead of a defender but he did about as much as he could. He looked assertive in all of his decisions other than that shot from range he fumbled wide but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say it could have been the wind or a deflection. He came off his line when needed for crosses, the second goal was absolutely not the time to come out for it, the replay from behind the goal shows the cross was miles away from him, he has to rely on his defenders and they didn't win the first or second ball.

    Based on Cal Roberts' reaction I'd say the coaching staff should shoulder a good part of the blame for the second as he seemed to be asking why he was marking their big number 5 and generally either didn't know what he was doing or didn't want to be doing what he'd been instructed as he came over to the touchline after the goal and was livid with one of the coaches (not I
    Agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertomac View Post
    All in all [...] lacking in energy and desire
    this kinda sums up what I'm reading between all the lines on here and ont'wireless. very depressing

    but, how to fix this maggie?

    traditionally sack the management

    damn thas cold. isn't there any less nuclear fix, dear?

    IB gotta produce the goods right now

    or never, imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie's Farm View Post
    this kinda sums up what I'm reading between all the lines on here and ont'wireless. very depressing

    but, how to fix this maggie?

    traditionally sack the management

    damn thas cold. isn't there any less nuclear fix, dear?

    IB gotta produce the goods right now

    or never, imo
    Probably not enough to get us promoted!

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