WBA53 match thread

[Johnny on the spot 1]

HRK on Sky last night doing some annaliss bet he was laughing his
boll ocks off ,

[baggieal]

I think the loss of Krovinovic is key as well.

This pair we're able to carry the ball and beat mean in the second third of the pitch and find killer passes as well as score goals.

Krov was a really good team man and obviously wanted to stay with us.

Perreira, Krov, Yoksulu, Diagne and Gayle.

It is THEY and maybe even whipping boy Sawyers who are the difference between us getting promotion this season compared to where we are now.

Oh......and Billic or Allardyce.

I'm so sad Slav couldn't find the formula last season but even if you compare our late season form under Fat Sam it is a million miles from where we are now.

At the moment we are nailed on bottom six next season with the present bunch of wasters.

Bruce is showing all the signs of lasting less time than Pardew.




Taxi !!!

Couldn't agree more and said it better! Sawyers would be the star player now in the middle rather than those wasters! Adam Reach - FFS - Livermore - FFS - Mowatt - does not look as if he even wants to play!!! Molumby - there's a reason why Brighton let him go - he's s hite too!

[Prando]

My player assessments….
Johnno 6 (no real clangers and not at fault for the goals)
O’Shea 3 - not ready and mauled 2nd half
AJ 6 did ok for me
Bartley 3 - another positional nightmare.
Townsend 3 what’s happened to him?
Mowatt 3 where was he
Molumby 6 showed some spirit, but reckless tackling again
Reach 3 what does Bruce see in him ?
Diangana 6 showed signs
Grant 3 dreadful again
Carroll 6 does what Carroll does

Surely time to rest the majority of the 3s

[Dubbag]

My player assessments….
Johnno 6 (no real clangers and not at fault for the goals)
O’Shea 3 - not ready and mauled 2nd half
AJ 6 did ok for me
Bartley 3 - another positional nightmare.
Townsend 3 what’s happened to him?
Mowatt 3 where was he
Molumby 6 showed some spirit, but reckless tackling again
Reach 3 what does Bruce see in him ?
Diangana 6 showed signs
Grant 3 dreadful again
Carroll 6 does what Carroll does

Surely time to rest the majority of the 3s

Actually....the only player I consistently seeing running throughout the game was...Carroll

[Prando]

PS…
One point in the last 5 games puts us joint bottom with Posh.

[TipperaryBaggie]

Those would be my assessments as well Prando. Bartley is a paceless donkey who tries to steer clear of the ball as much as possible. When it does come anywhere near him , he puts his arms behind his back and does a good impersonation of Bambi on Ice! Mowatt goes missing more times than the prisoners in Colditz. Don't get me started on Grant and Reach. What an absolute shambles.

[WBA123]

My player assessments….
Johnno 6 (no real clangers and not at fault for the goals)
O’Shea 3 - not ready and mauled 2nd half
AJ 6 did ok for me
Bartley 3 - another positional nightmare.
Townsend 3 what’s happened to him?
Mowatt 3 where was he
Molumby 6 showed some spirit, but reckless tackling again
Reach 3 what does Bruce see in him ?
Diangana 6 showed signs
Grant 3 dreadful again
Carroll 6 does what Carroll does

Surely time to rest the majority of the 3s

I think this is a pretty fair summary.

I would say TGH and Phillips/Dike when they're fit, would be able to come in and immediately improve the first XI,

But after that I'm really struggling. Livermore maybe? Then its down to the kids, how good players like Faal, Tulloch and Cleary are I don't know because I've not seen them enough. I hope they're ready to come in and improve us straight away.

Yes, Townsend has been poor but who can come in and replace him? The only other left footed full back / wing back player I can think of at the club is Zac Ashworth.

Our bench last night;
Furlong
Robinson
Clarke
Kipré
Button
Tulloch
Gardner-Hickman

[Yarmbaggie]

My player assessments….
Johnno 6 (no real clangers and not at fault for the goals)
O’Shea 3 - not ready and mauled 2nd half
AJ 6 did ok for me
Bartley 3 - another positional nightmare.
Townsend 3 what’s happened to him?
Mowatt 3 where was he
Molumby 6 showed some spirit, but reckless tackling again
Reach 3 what does Bruce see in him ?
Diangana 6 showed signs
Grant 3 dreadful again
Carroll 6 does what Carroll does

Surely time to rest the majority of the 3s

I was at the game last night and the scores are not a bad reflection.

I personally wouldnt have been so generous with Molumby, despite his spirit. He still isn’t good enough. For me I would have given Diangana top score of 7 as I think it was probably the best game he has had this year and he did at least try and take people on and make things happen.

How Grant stayed on beggars belief and how TGH didn’t come on, or even start?? At times Carroll needed a tannoy to communicate with the rest of the team, he was so far away from them. He does at least try but as you say Prando he does what Andy Carroll does.

Yes O’Shea and Townsend were dreadful. Dara ran out of steam after half time and Townsend got no help whatsoever from Grant, Mowatt or Reach despite it being obvious that he needed it!

Not impressed with the lack of activity from Bruce when it was obvious that we needed to change something, anything!

[baggiematt]

Bruce had a shocker yesterday. O'Shea is a good centre half but sticking him at right back for his first game back was a significant mistake. He was exhausted and clearly not fit second half. Wilder was smart enough to see this and put his quickest player on that side, who then made a goal and scored. Bruce did nothing about this threat and it cost us.

Going forward we looked no better as we have no pace or creativity. Grant was beaten time and time again by Dijksteel who was miles quicker than him. No one was bursting from midfield to get into the box either. Sometimes just bringing in an element to your team does the world of good. Tulloch might not be as good as Grant but he could cause problems with his speed. We might not be a bad side on the counter away from home given that we have no creativity.

Bruce is experienced, but there's absolutely no plan other than crossing to Carroll and hoping that Diangana and Grant improve...which they aren't really. I'd have felt better if he'd have stuck 10 behind the ball second half, at least it's a plan!

Carroll will be the death of us. He runs around a lot and he is someone to aim at, but christ is he ineffective. We just keep aiming it to him and little happens. I don't mind him as a player, but what is the point of him other than set plays? Defences have an easy job against our front three, no doubt about it.

[Leicesterbaggie]

The one player that I will not criticise is Carroll. He ran his socks off and laid the ball off well but as usual there was nobody to lay the ball off to. There is a complete lack of energy in our midfield so why we don't play TGH is beyond me. I was also disappointed that SB didn't react and try to nullify Wilder's substitutions.