Leeds United - v - Tottenham Hotspur ***Matchday Thread***

[WTF11]

it could be worse. You could be Ukranian or across the pond and have a leader that defecates in his pants, can't remember his name, bans oil and gas drilling, even though we are sitting on some of the worlds largest reserves, while gasoline and natural gas have tripled in price and couldn't get a drivers license in any of the states he rules.

However, it does seem inevitable we'll be playing the championship. Appears he's lost the locker room and that's the end of any team in any sport. could take the losing but it's the way we are losing that is so demoralizing.

Just how much does it take to show you that the responsibility for where we are extends to ALL those with influence on players, tactics etc, and WAY beyond the confines of the recent transfer window?

The first season in the PL was always going to go one of two ways, we either screwed with everyone else because of how we play and finish higher than might have been expected, or we bomb and get relegated. We did the former, and EVERYONE learned EXCEPT the board and the coach, who thought we could do the same in the second season (thrash the pants off a small squad and expect everyone to still be fooled). Didn't quite work out that way, did it?

We let Alioski and Hernandez go, and didn't replace them (please don't even think of suggesting Firpo is an adequate replacement for Alioski!). Summertime comes, and we paid a club record fee for a player who doesn't know where he should be (and neither does the coach), bought the footballing equivalent of a boxer with a glass jaw (Llorente), Koch and Raphina, then went for Dan James, why? Nearly £100m on players who contribute next to f00k all. and would you suggest that Bielsa was ignorant of those "qualities"? If he was, then he is incompetent, if he wasnt, he is culpable, just like Radrizzani, Kinnear, and Orta, either way, he is responsible with the others for the situation we are in and even moreso given that he helped to destroy the physical well-being of many of those who we have lost to injury during this (and previous) seasons.

If he goes, I won't be sorry to see him go, he was past his sell by date at the end of last season, and if by some miracle we get a manager who can keep us up, I'm glad that they will have the remaining games to do so, because nothing else will.

If we are relegated, there will be a fire sale, Meslier, Raphina, Bamford, Dallas, Bate, Gelhardt, Shackleton, Summerville, Dramah, and others, will be gone, the 49ers will either sell their shareholding (if anyone will buy) same for Radrizzani, who will never countenance the hard grind that will be necessary to get back to any kind of competitive status IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP! As for Kinnear and Orta, good riddance to bad rubbish if they go, but I fear that no-one would employ them after this debacle that took place on THEIR watch.

[WTF11]

If we end up in the championship then at least we will have parachute payments and a lot of the squad who know that league!

Oh yeah?

So Radrizzani is faced with years of re-building, as opposed to a quick buck earned on the back of acquiring one of the most famous club names in the world, and he is going to stick around for that? As if.

He will be gone, back to the world of TV rights sales for sporting events, with zero loyalty to LUFC, and with him will go "compensation" for all his hard work, and we will be at the mercy of a new spiv, or fake shiekh, or, or, or. We will lose money on every player sale, because every buying club will know what a commercial basket case we will be (reduced attendance, player wages at PL levels against EFL income, sponsors pulling or at the very least lowering their contribution, no more PL earnings, etc etc), and please don't suggest that the 49ers will make everything good. IF they have any sense they will wait until things stabilise, then decide what to do with us, and if they don't and decide to take the money and run, they will lose out.

Before you're tempted to make some smart alec remark about me, maybe you could respond to any of the above, and give some solid evidence that most of it isn't spot on?

[ozleeds]

Just how much does it take to show you that the responsibility for where we are extends to ALL those with influence on players, tactics etc, and WAY beyond the confines of the recent transfer window?

The first season in the PL was always going to go one of two ways, we either screwed with everyone else because of how we play and finish higher than might have been expected, or we bomb and get relegated. We did the former, and EVERYONE learned EXCEPT the board and the coach, who thought we could do the same in the second season (thrash the pants off a small squad and expect everyone to still be fooled). Didn't quite work out that way, did it?

We let Alioski and Hernandez go, and didn't replace them (please don't even think of suggesting Firpo is an adequate replacement for Alioski!). Summertime comes, and we paid a club record fee for a player who doesn't know where he should be (and neither does the coach), bought the footballing equivalent of a boxer with a glass jaw (Llorente), Koch and Raphina, then went for Dan James, why? Nearly £100m on players who contribute next to f00k all. and would you suggest that Bielsa was ignorant of those "qualities"? If he was, then he is incompetent, if he wasnt, he is culpable, just like Radrizzani, Kinnear, and Orta, either way, he is responsible with the others for the situation we are in and even moreso given that he helped to destroy the physical well-being of many of those who we have lost to injury during this (and previous) seasons.

If he goes, I won't be sorry to see him go, he was past his sell by date at the end of last season, and if by some miracle we get a manager who can keep us up, I'm glad that they will have the remaining games to do so, because nothing else will.

If we are relegated, there will be a fire sale, Meslier, Raphina, Bamford, Dallas, Bate, Gelhardt, Shackleton, Summerville, Dramah, and others, will be gone, the 49ers will either sell their shareholding (if anyone will buy) same for Radrizzani, who will never countenance the hard grind that will be necessary to get back to any kind of competitive status IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP! As for Kinnear and Orta, good riddance to bad rubbish if they go, but I fear that no-one would employ them after this debacle that took place on THEIR watch.

The worst thing about the season is the devaluing of our assets who on earth would fork out big money now even Raphs value has gone south. Radz and his clones have played us all along. But have shot themselves big time.

[BelfastAndy]

Oh yeah?

So Radrizzani is faced with years of re-building, as opposed to a quick buck earned on the back of acquiring one of the most famous club names in the world, and he is going to stick around for that? As if.

He will be gone, back to the world of TV rights sales for sporting events, with zero loyalty to LUFC, and with him will go "compensation" for all his hard work, and we will be at the mercy of a new spiv, or fake shiekh, or, or, or. We will lose money on every player sale, because every buying club will know what a commercial basket case we will be (reduced attendance, player wages at PL levels against EFL income, sponsors pulling or at the very least lowering their contribution, no more PL earnings, etc etc), and please don't suggest that the 49ers will make everything good. IF they have any sense they will wait until things stabilise, then decide what to do with us, and if they don't and decide to take the money and run, they will lose out.

Before you're tempted to make some smart alec remark about me, maybe you could respond to any of the above, and give some solid evidence that most of it isn't spot on?

Ach it's yourself again Ted

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

In our moment of misery the trolls come out to play - welcome back WTF - what happened to I will never post on the forum again as you are ALL STOOPID ****WITS?

[WTF11]

In our moment of misery the trolls come out to play - welcome back WTF - what happened to I will never post on the forum again as you are ALL STOOPID ****WITS?

Please find where I said that last bit? (And its nice to see how consistent you are in NEVER responding to the points raised, just content to retreat into name-calling. So much for your "try to be kinder" bullsh1t)

[ozleeds]

In the hour of need of Calmness, we resolve to old ways.
If we cant get it together how do expect the club to?

[WTF11]

In the hour of need of Calmness, we resolve to old ways.
If we cant get it together how do expect the club to?

Thing is, the club and those who manage it CAN change matters and yet they haven't even though all outside the club (and maybe a few inside) could see that change was required. How (or perhaps why) should we be expected to "get it together" when those who have the levers of power in the club we support can't?

[ozleeds]

Thing is, the club and those who manage it CAN change matters and yet they haven't even though all outside the club (and maybe a few inside) could see that change was required. How (or perhaps why) should we be expected to "get it together" when those who have the levers of power in the club we support can't?

I'm referring to the abuse and name-calling in here. It's the same as always and the club is no different same old same old.
Well still get relegated the new manager will get the sack and well be back watching the likes of cooper Roberts Ayling Harrison.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Please find where I said that last bit? (And its nice to see how consistent you are in NEVER responding to the points raised, just content to retreat into name-calling. So much for your "try to be kinder" bullsh1t)

Yawn - your I hope you have enough tissues in case you get over excited by the misery.

Bielsa was the best thing to happen to us since Wilkinson.