O/T:- Ukraine [Incorporating 'Congrats to Russia' thread]

[TheBlackHorse]

... so we enter a 'phoney war' for the next several months as our feeble politicians flail about meeting/talking/meeting/talking with no action, It's history repeating itself (when the so-called Allies failed to address the Hitler threat in1938). Eventually - and especially and only when the US has finished working out how to financially rape their Allies and victims for war time expenses (as they have done ever since WW1) they will join the inevitable WW3 fight. I think this may be the reason why they always arrive late to join the fighting (to the US, business is more important than correcting the wrongs. If you don't believe me, look up Ford Motor Co and the Nazi's).
Enjoy the life we have for now, dear friends ...

[Old_pie]

... so we enter a 'phoney war' for the next several months as our feeble politicians flail about meeting/talking/meeting/talking with no action, It's history repeating itself (when the so-called Allies failed to address the Hitler threat in1938). Eventually - and especially and only when the US has finished working out how to financially rape their Allies and victims for war time expenses (as they have done ever since WW1) they will join the inevitable WW3 fight. I think this may be the reason why they always arrive late to join the fighting (to the US, business is more important than correcting the wrongs. If you don't believe me, look up Ford Motor Co and the Nazi's).
Enjoy the life we have for now, dear friends ...

How many on here would like to see a "United Allies Force" descend on Ukraine to kick the bully Putin & Co out and call his bluff? Are you prepared for the consequences?

At the moment the sacred line is that of NATO countries. Putin will want to walk into all non-NATO neighbouring countries (Chinese apart). I don't see how Putin is going to let Ukraine win and I don't see how Ukraine can push him out without Western involvement.

A part of me wants to see the West call his bluff. 24hr notice to get out or we go in. But then I've lived most of my life. I doubt that China would want to get involved at all.

Hopefully the disruption caused by sanctions etc will lead to successful pressure from within Russia but somehow I doubt it - I don't think the oligarchs are going to be too concerned apart from losing a few toys and the general population are fodder anyway.

[queenslandpie]

How many on here would like to see a "United Allies Force" descend on Ukraine to kick the bully Putin & Co out and call his bluff? Are you prepared for the consequences?

At the moment the sacred line is that of NATO countries. Putin will want to walk into all non-NATO neighbouring countries (Chinese apart). I don't see how Putin is going to let Ukraine win and I don't see how Ukraine can push him out without Western involvement.

A part of me wants to see the West call his bluff. 24hr notice to get out or we go in. But then I've lived most of my life. I doubt that China would want to get involved at all.

Hopefully the disruption caused by sanctions etc will lead to successful pressure from within Russia but somehow I doubt it - I don't think the oligarchs are going to be too concerned apart from losing a few toys and the general population are fodder anyway.

I am glad you are not in charge.