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    There are many valid points made in the original post, some of which were similarly made by BS in another thread.

    Modern day global trade has meant that many Western countries have become involved with unsavoury regimes as greed and self interest will always sadly over ride moral considerations. It is now extremely hard for these countries to extricate themselves from such relationships due to reliance on goods/resources.

    There are plenty of countries across the globe right now experiencing violence and violations of human rights beside Ukraine whether that be in Yemen or Mongolia or much of Africa and India. You can easily find out about these but they are not in your face on all media outlets as the situation in Ukraine is. Why? Sadly, there probably is an element of this being because these other violations affect poorer non-white communities and that makes them less newsworthy in the West whereas Ukraine is both culturally and geographically far closer to Western nations so maybe there is more empathy towards them. But the key issue is that what is happening in Ukraine is far more likely to directly affect us than what is happening in Africa or Yemen-including the scary proposition of WW3.

    I believe the UN and so called "develped" nations should-and could-do more but it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to attempt to police the world and human nature seems to ensure a never ending provision of those who would either seek power at the expense and subjugation of others or else seek to enforce religious or political extremism and intolerance. Many of the developed countries are also now far more focussed on domestic issues than expending both money and lives on foreign soil as "charity begins at home" . After its experiences in the Middle East, the USA is certainly wanting to pull away from such involvement, although Putin is testing this resolve.

    The situation in Ukraine is both horrible and worrying but even if it can be resolved and Putin forced to step back the rest of the world will likely just continue on as it has been and people across the globe will continue to be oppressed under various regimes. Cheery thought isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    There are many valid points made in the original post, some of which were similarly made by BS in another thread.

    Modern day global trade has meant that many Western countries have become involved with unsavoury regimes as greed and self interest will always sadly over ride moral considerations. It is now extremely hard for these countries to extricate themselves from such relationships due to reliance on goods/resources.

    There are plenty of countries across the globe right now experiencing violence and violations of human rights beside Ukraine whether that be in Yemen or Mongolia or much of Africa and India. You can easily find out about these but they are not in your face on all media outlets as the situation in Ukraine is. Why? Sadly, there probably is an element of this being because these other violations affect poorer non-white communities and that makes them less newsworthy in the West whereas Ukraine is both culturally and geographically far closer to Western nations so maybe there is more empathy towards them. But the key issue is that what is happening in Ukraine is far more likely to directly affect us than what is happening in Africa or Yemen-including the scary proposition of WW3.

    I believe the UN and so called "develped" nations should-and could-do more but it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to attempt to police the world and human nature seems to ensure a never ending provision of those who would either seek power at the expense and subjugation of others or else seek to enforce religious or political extremism and intolerance. Many of the developed countries are also now far more focussed on domestic issues than expending both money and lives on foreign soil as "charity begins at home" . After its experiences in the Middle East, the USA is certainly wanting to pull away from such involvement, although Putin is testing this resolve.

    The situation in Ukraine is both horrible and worrying but even if it can be resolved and Putin forced to step back the rest of the world will likely just continue on as it has been and people across the globe will continue to be oppressed under various regimes. Cheery thought isn't it?
    Hey Regis I have to agree and said the same a while ago, but slightly more diplomatically as I knew it would draw some reaction from people that didn’t read it in the way it was meant, Omegstrat did read it the way it was meant, so thanks for that mate also Al I always measured in his response and open to discussion, but not all on here are

    @regis mate you can’t be surprised at people feeling sorry for people that look more like them than we do, it happens and it’s not right but it happens
    Also we are conditioned to think of the world as continents with lines which is ****ing weird but it happens again
    Have you seen some of the reports saying we don’t see these sort of things in a civilised place, like the rest of the world is not civilised
    Bias towards people that look, sound, and are based near to you will always happen doesn’t make it right

    And I also think you are right to point it out, as we should all be made to think about our actions and analyse our thoughts and responses that’s how we grow as people and change
    Last edited by BaggieSingh; 11-03-2022 at 06:14 PM.

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