The Russians want Ukraine to recognise Russian control of Crimea and the independence of the eastern pro Russia regions of Donetsk and Luhansk and a constitutional change which commits Ukraine to be neutral and not to join the EU or even NATO. Russia have said they recognise that Ukraine is an independent state.

Why are these aims unacceptable? Russia does not want to take over the country. Based on what Russia deems acceptable why cant it be used as a basis to broker a peace deal? I have not heard anything from western leaders about peace at all just more sanctions, more firepower to Ukraine, more boycotts, no fly zones. Why are the western leaders wanting escalation to this conflict?

These flippin sanctions are going to hit us very hard, energy, fuel and food prices will continue to sky rocket. These are the sort of rises that would take effect if we were actually in a war, which supposedly we are not.

Next step is to debate Putins aims and perhaps give him what he wants or even some/part of. We cant go around trying to ensure Putin fails completely and if/when he does then it could mean direct confrontation with Russia and that is not in the best interests for anyone. In my Stop talking war and war mongering and start discussing peace.