What’s The West’s Next Move?

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The Russians want Ukraine to recognise Russian control of Crimea and the independence of the eastern pro Russia regions of Donetsk and Luhansk and a constitutional change which commits Ukraine to be neutral and not to join the EU or even NATO. Russia have said they recognise that Ukraine is an independent state.

Why are these aims unacceptable? Russia does not want to take over the country. Based on what Russia deems acceptable why cant it be used as a basis to broker a peace deal? I have not heard anything from western leaders about peace at all just more sanctions, more firepower to Ukraine, more boycotts, no fly zones. Why are the western leaders wanting escalation to this conflict?

These flippin sanctions are going to hit us very hard, energy, fuel and food prices will continue to sky rocket. These are the sort of rises that would take effect if we were actually in a war, which supposedly we are not.

Next step is to debate Putins aims and perhaps give him what he wants or even some/part of. We cant go around trying to ensure Putin fails completely and if/when he does then it could mean direct confrontation with Russia and that is not in the best interests for anyone. In my Stop talking war and war mongering and start discussing peace.

It’s up to the Ukrainians if they want part of their country siphoned off and be poorer without strategic ports. They are proud people and want to fight the murderers until their last breath. Even all the 3 million refugees ( unlike those who come on boats ) they don’t want to seek sanctuary in other countries - they want to go home to the country they love,

Could you negotiate with Hitler? So why would we be able to negotiate with a 69 year old psycho who probably will be dead in less than 20 years!! Maybe this is one reason why he does not care!

If the U.K. was invaded by Russia would we give away London and strategic ports like Dover just to keep the peace!

Everyone to their own. I have been brought up on kindness and compassion so if prices rocket or my company goes bust to save woman and children - so be it!

Whatever the end game is we should completely move away from all business connected with Russia and perhaps start this exercise too with China.

To think these people are fighting huge bombs with petrol bombs etc and leaving their women and kids to escape. I salute them! On the other hand the Afghans who were trained ran away like chickens and didn’t want to die to defend their land. God be with these Ukrainians and hope those Russian soldiers who will know right from wrong - get their Just rewards!

Best thing with a bully is to stand up to them!
Over to you Sleepy Joe - another old fart who should gracefully take a back seat!