OT perspective/ Ukraine/Russia

[swaledale]

lmfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao

That has to be the biggest body swerve I have seen since John Barnes in Brazil.
Can't win an argument that points out your obvious bias, so it devolves to personal insults in an attempt to gain dominance.
Sad little man of Macron stature.
But keep going sunshine, it's so easy to see you rattled and clutching thin air.

Good job I didn't say I'm Scottish but not tight

But you love a racist jibe from your angle only. Biden does one out of stupidity and you say nothing. But the left luvvies are good at that.


AND NO, YOU DON'T HAVE ME ON IGNORE. YOU NEVER HAVE AND TALK COMPLETE BRAVADO BOLLOX.
DO ME A FAVOUR AND NEVER USE A RAT TRAP. YOU'LL ONLY CATCH YOURSELF

Hasn't anybody told you that when you start shouting, you only confirm that you have lost the debate, not that you are capable of debate and its been pointless to do that with you since you have no ability to actually consider the facts but rely instead on bizarre and laughable comments lifted from the internet trolls who peddle fake news, and down right lies.

So Biden is stupid in your book? Mm what does that make you? From where I'm and anyone with a scintilla of intelligence is standing, Biden's intellectual capability is approximately 100 x yours and is obvious he has more power and achieved more in his life than you have or ever will do, so I rather think your judgement such as it is, is flawed and well pointless.

I don't suppose that you have ever considered that Biden's comment has been taken out of context and reported in the way your insinuating by a right wing media who have their own agenda... sorry I forgot your incapable of thinking, just repeating complete bilge and falsehoods, your so dumb!

But then your childish caricature of Biden and his vice president demonstrates how time and time again you have no concept of reality but are well versed in being a liar and misanthropic, xenophobic, racist and bigoted.

If you actually look at the facts, he has achieved a considerable amount, considering he has a very tight minority in the senate and has more than a couple of Democratic senators who for reasons of their own have actively blocked or abstained from key votes that would push actions through.

One area where your ignorance stands out though is thinking Biden and the Democrats are in any way left leaning! Oh boy you really are dumb to think that.

I'm rattled by you? A Neanderthal, dumb ass or who is so stupid as to keep posting stuff that just makes him look even more stupid? If I could be arsed I could tie you in knots, in fact I have wiped the floor with your pathetic views in the past, generally you have either resorted to threats, or more accurately threatening that your imaginary girlfriend or mates would soon sort me out! I absolutely love your responses, they have no basis in facts or reality, you really are the very epitome of gammon, an aging washed up old bloke who thinks what he say has any relevance!

Oh and just to be clear, you have been on ignore for over 12 months, I mean its so boring to read the stuff you post and frankly why would I waste my time? I could predict your posts because your so predictable and so wrong on most things, your opinion is worth diddly squat!

Occasionally when I'm at a loose end, I amuse myself by opening one of your posts or I see one quoted by another poster and have a poke at you, because you just can't resist the bait. An intelligent person would be able to, but sadly that isn't you!

If you had any sense, you would realise that I very rarely respond to your posts these days, I mean sorry and all that but your incapable of intelligent thought and don't really wish to acknowledge that such stupidity exists!

Anyway back on ignore you go, please do continue with your inane ramblings, I'm sure others enjoy them and seeing you make yourself look a twit!

Until the next time I have time on my hands au revoir!

[MadAmster]

If Trump was in power he'd be offering to send troops in to help Putin. He wants to be a tin pot dictator like Putin, Xi and Kim. He really admires that kind of jerk. Looks like half the US population agree with him which is even more frightening.

Something that has happened under Biden is that European NATO Heads of State have, finally, decided to stump up the minimum 2% of GDP for the defence budget. All of Europe has degraded both hardware and personnel in the past 20 years. Nowhere near ready. They will be soon.

NATO. Invite Russia to join. No need for Putin to be afraid of attack as we'd all have his back.

[Trickytreesreds]

If Trump was in power he'd be offering to send troops in to help Putin. He wants to be a tin pot dictator like Putin, Xi and Kim. He really admires that kind of jerk. Looks like half the US population agree with him which is even more frightening.

Something that has happened under Biden is that European NATO Heads of State have, finally, decided to stump up the minimum 2% of GDP for the defence budget. All of Europe has degraded both hardware and personnel in the past 20 years. Nowhere near ready. They will be soon.

NATO. Invite Russia to join. No need for Putin to be afraid of attack as we'd all have his back.

I don't think the NATO upgrade has anything to do with Biden at all.
Last year Biden backed Macrons EU army.
However a Russian war on Europes border has made many of the EU empire idiots realise, that the US led NATO has far more security, than Macrons rag tag bunch.
It's also very telling how the biggest dodges like Germany have suddenly upped the budget as a result and had to cut its grovelling to Putin.
I don't know how any EU lover can slag Trump as a Putin lover, when the EU has become ever reliant on him.
Funny how the tables turn.

[Andy_Faber]

for anyone with an IQ of more than single figures, it would be quite easy to work out whether I had you on ignore or not.

I have. It was. You hadn't/haven't

[Andy_Faber]

A couple of mild rebukes for posters who might actually reflect on my comments - TTR I've studied Biden (not just because ofyour comments) and he seems to have good and bad days, and for that matter good and bad moments within days, but have a care for folk with neurological problems, be they manageable (migraine for instance, and I've sounded very much like Biden on one of his bad days - confused, slurring words, meandering etc) or chronic (dementia), neither are avoidable and therefor IMO not for our amusement - his repeated and fluctuating use of his Irish heritage IS,please proceed. Likewise rA, call out Boris for his incompetence etc at will but regarding his appearance and inability to 'mingle', surely that must echo with kids you've taught who were blighted with similar social deficiencies (and again I've suffered from it, amplified by a partner who can rustle up a relationship with anyone in a few seconds, And look great in any old sack). to quote your favourite phrase 'you're better than that'

[Trickytreesreds]

Whatever Bidens problems are Andy, merely highlights for me, the fact that this man is out of his depth in that position.
Trump has many faults, but did he ever come across as a man "spaced out" No, he didn't, Not many agreed with his views, but voters decided at a ballot box about that.
Biden was elected as his replacement. As nice as Uncle Joe comes across as, should in no way be leading the free world, expecially were defence is concerned. Russia threatens chemical weapons this week. Joe pipes up, the west will reply in kind? Now call me naive, but even if I was thinking that, I'd keep it to my inner circle rather than inflame a situation.
I get your point, about taking the piss on mental abilities, but ultimately it isn't a laughing matter.

As for the Irish roots thing, It's a joke.
Though he isn't the first Democrat to suck into that one is he?

[MadAmster]

I don't know how any EU lover can slag Trump as a Putin lover, when the EU has become ever reliant on him.
Funny how the tables turn.

As I'm probably the most vociferous on the TrumpTin Bromance, I take it that this particular sentence is aimed, at least in part, in my general direction.

If you've followed my input to the Brexit thread you will be aware that I am not a great lover of the EU. I'm all for an integrated free trade area. Yes please with knobs on. The corrupt Brussels based political quagmire is a swamp that needs draining and disbanding IMO. The EU should never have been borne out of the Common Market. It should have stayed the way it was. By all means extend the boundaries of the free trade area. Not even Putin would find that threat. Have the European NATO countries get their defensive capability back up to scratch and keep it there. Never let your guard down. We don't need the EU for that.

The EU is still haemorrhaging billions a year. The money comes in, it goes out, but billions are unaccounted for. Where did they go? Nobody knows they say. I suspect a select few do know but aren't telling as they don't want their back pocket emptying.

Trump? He wants the USA turned into a sort of right wing dictatorship where only rednecks have the right to vote and the rest are 2nd class citizens. He'd probably even bring back slavery if he thought he could get away with it although there are already very many US citizens working very hard at multiple minimum wage jobs who still can't afford the basics like health insurance, a solid home and sufficient food who might think that slavery still abounds in a lesser form.

Some parts of this post have been purposely embellished to make a point.

[ramAnag]

A couple of mild rebukes for posters who might actually reflect on my comments - TTR I've studied Biden (not just because ofyour comments) and he seems to have good and bad days, and for that matter good and bad moments within days, but have a care for folk with neurological problems, be they manageable (migraine for instance, and I've sounded very much like Biden on one of his bad days - confused, slurring words, meandering etc) or chronic (dementia), neither are avoidable and therefor IMO not for our amusement - his repeated and fluctuating use of his Irish heritage IS,please proceed. Likewise rA, call out Boris for his incompetence etc at will but regarding his appearance and inability to 'mingle', surely that must echo with kids you've taught who were blighted with similar social deficiencies (and again I've suffered from it, amplified by a partner who can rustle up a relationship with anyone in a few seconds, And look great in any old sack). to quote your favourite phrase 'you're better than that'

Point taken, Andy.
Tbf it’s quite untypical of me to have a go at people over their ‘social deficiencies’/appearance and I wouldn’t in normal circumstances.
However we’re not talking about you...or kids I’ve taught...we’re talking about our supposed leader and the Prime Minister.
For him every day is an interview day and you and I both know how important first impressions are on such occasions.
Having a leader who constantly looks as if he needs ‘Nanny’ to dress him certainly doesn’t help, but my main point was about the way in which he appeared isolated amongst the other NATO leaders which is just downright bad, and embarrassing, for our country.
I don’t recall such generosity of spirit from the Tory ranks when Michael Foot attended the cenotaph all those years ago, and he at least was a decent and honest man who never actually progressed beyond leader of the opposition.

[Andy_Faber]

Point taken, Andy.
Tbf it’s quite untypical of me to have a go at people over their ‘social deficiencies’/appearance and I wouldn’t in normal circumstances.
However we’re not talking about you...or kids I’ve taught...we’re talking about our supposed leader and the Prime Minister.
For him every day is an interview day and you and I both know how important first impressions are on such occasions.
Having a leader who constantly looks as if he needs ‘Nanny’ to dress him certainly doesn’t help, but my main point was about the way in which he appeared isolated amongst the other NATO leaders which is just downright bad, and embarrassing, for our country.
I don’t recall such generosity of spirit from the Tory ranks when Michael Foot attended the cenotaph all those years ago, and he at least was a decent and honest man who never actually progressed beyond leader of the opposition.

Point(s) taken in return

[MadAmster]

The UK is getting absolutely hammered, and quite rightly so, for its stance in Ukrainian refugees. Totally inhuman IMO.

To get a Visa they have to access specially set up web pages, fill stuff in, save it in a PDF, print it........ all so very easy to do when you're fleeing a war with the clothes on your back and a handful more in a small bag/case.

The UK is fast becoming seen as a pariah. Again, rightly so.

The Irish sent buses to Poland to pick up refugees to bring to Ireland. The UK Government says "try to land at a UK port and we'll arrest them all as illegals......" They are now going from mainland Europe to Ireland via ferry. A slower route but one which won't see them thrown in jail.

A 4 year old boy, apparently with relatives in the Stockport area, refused entry because his passport had elapsed a few weeks earlier. I have to admit I haven't fact checked it but if this is true then we can sink no lower.

These are a few more reasons why I won't be coming back to the UK to live. Any Tory supporters on here, feel free to put me on ignore. You are as reprehensible for voting them in as they are for being such utter tw@ts.