O/T:- Ukraine [Incorporating 'Congrats to Russia' thread]

[irishpete]

Anyone any idea why Abramovic is involved in the peace talks?

Religion maybe ? He is Jewish same as the Ukranian leader, also lived close to the Ukranian border when younger. Putins mate, trying to look after his frozen assets?

On another note, where are the French, Spanish etc? Only the UK, Yanks flying every day close to the border. The Italians fly a Plane now & again as do the Poles. Had to laugh ,even the Swedish Air Force have flown a few times, albeit a Lear Jet

[LaxtonLad]

Religion maybe ? He is Jewish same as the Ukranian leader, also lived close to the Ukranian border when younger. Putins mate, trying to look after his frozen assets?

On another note, where are the French, Spanish etc? Only the UK, Yanks flying every day close to the border. The Italians fly a Plane now & again as do the Poles. Had to laugh ,even the Swedish Air Force have flown a few times, albeit a Lear Jet

I'm surprised the Yanks aren't hanging back, waiting to see an opening where they can make a profit. That's what the French have learned to do, hang about till the rebuilding contracts roll in then elbow the UK and rest of the EU to one side.

[keldsyke]

Not sure what can be done about the alleged war crimes, but there’s no way Putin will be in a court unless the regime is overthrown which is very unlikely.

[Old_pie]

Not sure what can be done about the alleged war crimes, but there’s no way Putin will be in a court unless the regime is overthrown which is very unlikely.

I wonder how many countries he dare visit in future.

[drillerpie]

Nice to see their state TV staying classy by saying the videos of the civilians they tortured and killed in Bucha are fake, offering the following explanations:

1) Crisis actors pretending to be dead
2) Real civilians tortured and killed by their own soldiers
3) A plot by Boris to frame Putin, town chosen because Bucha looks similar to butcher

Meanwhile Ukranian OAPs say that the occupation in WW2 by the actual Nazis was less traumatic than this occupation by the Russians.

Also plenty of video circulating of Russian soldiers calling their wives to say how rich Ukraine is and to boast about how much stuff they have stolen from Ukranian homes. They even stop in uniform at shipping companies in Belarus and Russia to send large stolen electrical appliances back home.

What an absolute insult to humanity Russia is under this current regime.

[irishpete]

Nice to see their state TV staying classy by saying the videos of the civilians they tortured and killed in Bucha are fake, offering the following explanations:

1) Crisis actors pretending to be dead
2) Real civilians tortured and killed by their own soldiers
3) A plot by Boris to frame Putin, town chosen because Bucha looks similar to butcher

Meanwhile Ukranian OAPs say that the occupation in WW2 by the actual Nazis was less traumatic than this occupation by the Russians.

Also plenty of video circulating of Russian soldiers calling their wives to say how rich Ukraine is and to boast about how much stuff they have stolen from Ukranian homes. They even stop in uniform at shipping companies in Belarus and Russia to send large stolen electrical appliances back home.

What an absolute insult to humanity Russia is under this current regime.

Agree, but also hell of a lot will not be going home. I can assure you the Ukranians will have done barbaric things as well. Plenty of videos showing Russian Soldiers killed lying beside Armour vehicles with holes in their heads & brains on the road. the price of war I'm afraid. Like one Russian said on TV, the Ministers Sons aren't on the front line fighting. They sent in young conscripts who were told bullsh!t to put it bluntly.
The one thing the West is seeing out of this, is that their Army is nothing to be feared of.

[irishpete]

Not sure what can be done about the alleged war crimes, but there’s no way Putin will be in a court unless the regime is overthrown which is very unlikely.

Will never happen unless a massive change at the top as you say. UN just going through the motions.