O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[ramAnag]

Despite all that, despite all the scams their friends made billion from, the app that never worked which cost tens of millions and that went to a firm where Cummings sister has a top role yet the Irish built one for 850K and offered it to NoJo, track and trace which cost tens of billions yet the Germans, whose population is 20M higher than the UK's did it for ONE billion

Despite the entire Brexit fiasco where businesses are in trouble and a lot have moved abroad, there is a de facto border in the Irish Sea.... none of which would have been necessary had the UK remained in the internal market and customs union, they will still get in at the next election.

I’m not so pessimistic, MA. Labour are no longer hamstrung by the electoral liability that the press, rightly or wrongly, portrayed Corbyn to be and even the most one eyed of Tory supporters must by now have recognised Johnson to be the dishonest, bumbling and self serving incompetent that some of us have suggested all along.

The alternatives...Truss, Gove, Raab and Sunak...have hardly covered themselves in glory recently, indeed they’re probably four of the reasons that Johnson remains in post, and there really is going to have to be some sort of ‘miracle’ if the Tories are to win next time round.

Hopefully the single most dangerous and damaging man in the country (Farage) and his sinister financial backers will now keep their noses out after the disaster that is Brexit and I foresee a coalition at worst.

[swaledale]

I’m not so pessimistic, MA. Labour are no longer hamstrung by the electoral liability that the press, rightly or wrongly, portrayed Corbyn to be and even the most one eyed of Tory supporters must by now have recognised Johnson to be the dishonest, bumbling and self serving incompetent that some of us have suggested all along.

The alternatives...Truss, Gove, Raab and Sunak...have hardly covered themselves in glory recently, indeed they’re probably four of the reasons that Johnson remains in post, and there really is going to have to be some sort of ‘miracle’ if the Tories are to win next time round.

Hopefully the single most dangerous and damaging man in the country (Farage) and his sinister financial backers will now keep their noses out after the disaster that is Brexit and I foresee a coalition at worst.

I love your optimism rA, BUT - it could well be something that isn't de facto the fault of the Tory party, i.e. the cost of living that ****s them, though of course Sunak's tone death response to it so far hasn't helped.

Though I'd like to believe Starmer has some trick up his sleeve, I fear, that competent and sensible he might be, he favours a Blair lite approach which will not be popular with voters under 30.

Labour realy needs to hammer home what a disaster Brexit is, whilst clearly re-joining the EU isn't an option, getting back in the customs union and single market clearly is and urgently required if the Uk is to recover.

As for farage, well he is already taking up the attack on net zero as his next cause, but that may well rebound on him badly.

[ramAnag]

I love your optimism rA, BUT - it could well be something that isn't de facto the fault of the Tory party, i.e. the cost of living that ****s them, though of course Sunak's tone death response to it so far hasn't helped.

Though I'd like to believe Starmer has some trick up his sleeve, I fear, that competent and sensible he might be, he favours a Blair lite approach which will not be popular with voters under 30.

Labour realy needs to hammer home what a disaster Brexit is, whilst clearly re-joining the EU isn't an option, getting back in the customs union and single market clearly is and urgently required if the Uk is to recover.

As for farage, well he is already taking up the attack on net zero as his next cause, but that may well rebound on him badly.

Not disagreeing with any of that, Swale...just with MA’s untypical pessimism.
Even a slim Tory majority would be a massive improvement on what we have now which was always going to happen when the Little Englanders took over the Tory party with their blend of delusion and selfishness and circumstances then provided them with a huge majority.
Things can only get better. Eventually!

[swaledale]

Not disagreeing with any of that, Swale...just with MA’s untypical pessimism.
Even a slim Tory majority would be a massive improvement on what we have now which was always going to happen when the Little Englanders took over the Tory party with their blend of delusion and selfishness and circumstances then provided them with a huge majority.
Things can only get better. Eventually!

OR they could get a lot worse! Still plenty of Little Englanders around, though they might not be so keen when they see that domestic energy rises 455 in the Uk and 5% in france!!