Trade or University

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You’re missing my point entirely, both of you are.

Tomas, I clearly stated that for the types of professions you highlighted that a top education is very much required.

Al.....you constantly bang on about this with the same reply time after time in defence of what you seem to think ( wrongly )is a dig at your own kids.

Read my post again.

Too many are going to university and wasting 4-5 years of their lives doing pointless degrees, especially in photography and lightweight subjects.

They then come out without a plan and with huge debt, for many university was the wrong choice.

Take me for example, I was reasonably bright at school but hated being in education, another two years at sixth form followed by 4-5 years at university would’ve seen me being 24 and unprepared for the real world.

Great if you’ve got a really good brain and a real plan for what you want to do but if you haven’t it’s pointless.

“Falling back on a good education” hasn’t helped my masters degree nephew who now tries to survive on Instagram videos whilst living in Mexico at 33 on meagre money with no career despite being fluent in five languages.

Well played to your kids who have had a plan,your daughter in particular who seems to be really driven.

Too many who go to university are not, for every one of your daughter’s type there are many more who achieve very little despite that education.

Not missing any point Mick! Might be better for someone to answer the post on whose kids have experienced university or invested in education!! At all the top universities there’s no courses like photography which you mention so perhaps you are getting confused with the old third rate Poly’s.

To obtain a good degree in a very academic course is hard slog believe me! I know my own kids and their mates were revising day and night!

University brings other benefits too! My daughter would not have got on the Disney Florida programme in the Summer for two years ( only recruit university students ) or headhunted via linked in by Man Utd. Two of the most powerful brands around certainly opens doors on a CV.

Investment in education for me is an excellent move and better than a deposit for a house as it’s for life if the child gets a good career.

Labour even ruined the old grammar school system. Take a grammar school in my area - bitter parents whose kids can’t get in want the selection system scrapped as their view is it weakens other schools in the area. Yes it does but why should bright kids be held back by kids who don’t want to learn or who are thick. You don’t have useless kids who can’t play football very well in football academies so no different.

Nothing wrong with trades but work not guaranteed - no company pension - no company share scheme - no bonus scheme - no paid holidays - no illness cover and I could go on. A good career with a company should propel someone up the ladder.

I certainly would be nervous without decent qualifications in 2022.

I do agree though university is not everything but a family member has just got into the RAF - understandably he had to have fantastic qualifications to even get on the first interview out of four! Really tough but understandably!

My warehouse staff pack boxes and anyone can do this but agree work ethic and common sense are the key ingredients so horses for courses!