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Thread: Ukraine & Putin.

  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Eyewitnesses from Mariupol say Ukrainian Azovs killing everybody:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRtL...index=1&t=191s
    Obviously the separatists filmed here will be supporting the Russian invasion. I think the Z on the bloke's jacket was a bit if a giveaway.

  2. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by wanderlust View Post
    Obviously the separatists filmed here will be supporting the Russian invasion. I think the Z on the bloke's jacket was a bit if a giveaway.
    Evidence of the Nazi war crimes is overwhelming Wanderlust.It is just a few clicks away.

    This report by an English freelance reporter:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtxHlOdy6fk&t=158s

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    Russia jubilant as Nazi who is guilty of ordering war crimes in Ukraine is found hiding in plain sight during routine search. This man will definitely play a leading role in our May Day victory over Nazism parade, a Kremlin spokesman said. And when we catch that vile Jewish comedian who is pretending to be President of a nation that has no right to exist we will be only too delighted to show him what a real Nazi looks like.

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    Sweden and Finland next on the Putin chopping block?

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    Russia jubilant as Nazi who is guilty of ordering war crimes in Ukraine is found hiding in plain sight during routine search. This man will definitely play a leading role in our May Day victory over Nazism parade, a Kremlin spokesman said. And when we catch that vile Jewish comedian who is pretending to be President of a nation that has no right to exist we will be only too delighted to show him what a real Nazi looks like.
    Something like this Outwood:-

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    "Any war is a tragedy. We should work to de-escalate and see it end in Ukraine. But there are always at least two sides to a conflict: two agendas, not counting the designs of external actors. War does not occur in a vacuum. It often betrays (and is the culmination of) a long history of grievances and distrust.

    Having claimed over 14,000 lives since 2014, the conflict in Ukraine is not about Vladimir Putin and his character but realpolitik, national interest, and great power rivalry. Countries have genuine security interests, some of them existential. They have real red lines.

    “No Russian leader could stand idly by,” Putin told William Burns, now the director of the CIA, and accept Nato membership for Ukraine, Georgia, or Belarus, or allow Western weapons systems into these countries. As one of American greatest strategists and the architect of “containment” against the Soviet Union, George Kennan’s reaction to the Clinton administration’s insistence on Nato’s enlargement is particularly telling: “I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else. This expansion would make the founding fathers of this country turn over in their graves.”

    Almost 25 years on, such sober-minded analysis is increasingly rare. And this sidelining of neutral, dispassionate scrutiny in the Russo-Ukrainian War is particularly alarming because this is not America’s war. The North Atlantic has little ***** geostrategic interest in Ukraine other than in trying to avoid a refugee or energy crisis. Yet many in Washington, London, or Brussels have goaded and encouraged, and are now revelling in, the conflict — convinced as they are that an extended quagmire there could become the kind of vulnerability for Russia that Afghanistan was for the Soviet Union, a malignant tumour metastasising to the whole of the Russian body politic and instigating regime change."

  7. #197
    Jimmy Dore reviewing Jonathan Cook`s article on the Ukraine War which is about the most accurate you will see.



  8. #198
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    Who’s been mutin’ Putin? No big announcement during his Victory Day address. No Z formation fly past; cancelled because of the weather. Leaves on the runway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by outwoodclaret View Post
    Who’s been mutin’ Putin? No big announcement during his Victory Day address. No Z formation fly past; cancelled because of the weather. Leaves on the runway?
    Russia does not go for big announcements with bells and whistles.Putin made his move last week Outwood but MSM as usual did not report it.The west declared financial war on Russia and they failed miserably.Now there is a good dose of karma on its way to the west:-



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