Jake Daniels

[upthemaggies]

Nobody has said that he's done it for the money, have they? I don't want to speak on anybody else's behalf but I think the general point being made is that there's nothing particularly brave or heroic about coming out in the British entertainment industry in 2022. The fact that he's likely to benefit - both financially and in his career as a result of going full public - backing up that very point.

If it were the case that it really was a brave thing to do, he'd be potentially jeopardizing his career and facing widespread condemnation from large sections of the media, the game itself and the general public. That's not going to happen.

We'll have to see where he goes with this before judging his motives. Fair play to Daniels if he does decide to take this further and puts his head above the parapet by drawing direct attention to the communities and nations where gay people are living in genuine fear and danger to the point of being ostracised by family or facing a death sentence. That would be brave and heroic.

I know people don't like having cold water poured on their opportunity to virtue signal, but for god's sake let's have some proper perspective.

[BigFatPie]

Nobody has said that he's done it for the money, have they? I don't want to speak on anybody else's behalf but I think the general point being made is that there's nothing particularly brave or heroic about coming out in the British entertainment industry in 2022. The fact that he's likely to benefit - both financially and in his career as a result of going full public - backing up that very point.

If it were the case that it really was a brave thing to do, he'd be potentially jeopardizing his career and facing widespread condemnation from large sections of the media, the game itself and the general public. That's not going to happen.

We'll have to see where he goes with this before judging his motives. Fair play to Daniels if he does decide to take this further and puts his head above the parapet by drawing direct attention to the communities and nations where gay people are living in genuine fear and danger to the point of being ostracised by family or facing a death sentence. That would be brave and heroic.

I know people don't like having cold water poured on their opportunity to virtue signal, but for god's sake let's have some proper perspective.

Blimey, this thread has accused him of doing it for the fame and adulation, claimed it’s his fault if he gets abused, and now you’re saying he needs to speak out for gay rights across the world. A little reminder that he’s 17, about a year older than my lad who still needs someone to put milk on his coco pops in the morning.

You’re dead right about some perspective being required.

[upthemaggies]

Blimey, this thread has accused him of doing it for the fame and adulation, claimed it’s his fault if he gets abused, and now you’re saying he needs to speak out for gay rights across the world. A little reminder that he’s 17, about a year older than my lad who still needs someone to put milk on his coco pops in the morning.

You’re dead right about some perspective being required.

I haven't said he needs to do anything. I'd be impressed by anybody that did dare speak up, but I wouldn't expect it of anyone.

[Lullapie]

I prefer Jim Beam myself.

I'm not bothered about anybody's $exuality. To be honest it causes more issues pigeon holing everybody rather than us all being one.

I didn't dislike Justin Fashanu because of who he slept with, I just thought apart from his goal for Norwich against Liverpool he wasn't as good as his $1 million price tag at the time portrayed.

If Liberace was centre forward for Notts in the 1970s and scored 30 goals a season, good on him. However if he was centre forward and scored no goals over the season and then 'came out', would that make me feel sympathetic for him? No.