Fair point ! I’m just glad and also very grateful that these lads have decided to do what they have. far more worrying for me is not what is being said but what is not. Loads of people who have gone to games, posted on forums, attended social events and taken a huge interest in the club for a very long time don’t bother anymore. We all know folk who used to do some or all of those things, we all notice who used to sit close to you at Dens or post regularly on here. One of the problems is that the man in charge wouldn’t know Shaded fae Shuntz and as long as visiting fans are happy to roll up in numbers doesn’t he really seem to care whether life long Dee’s are there on a Saturday or not. I genuinely think there are plenty involved at each of the three fans groups involved who can tell him this, give him good advice and keep him right but the man himself has to want to listen. It would be extremely foolish in the circumstances not to in my view.