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[Brin]

Has anyone else tried the new Seasons restaurant at Wickersley?

Called in yesterday for lunch. A very impressive lay out awaits you with excellent decor.

A touch pricey but it is a fine dining restaurant.

I ordered a Lobster sandwich on a brioche bun, which was accompanied with large tripled fried chips and a small salad. Plenty of large pieces of lobster which was delicious - £18
The good lady had a lamb burger again accompanied with large tripled fried chips and a small salad. The lamb was succulent to taste. - £16
A 250ml glass of Argentinian Malbec produced by finca Ferrer under the label of Acordeo'n. Have to say, it was an excellent wine = £9.50
A 125ml glass of Pino Grigio for the Wife which she complimented, as she isn't normally a white wine drinker - £7.50
To finish we shared a cheese platter of two cheeses, you can choose from 2 , 3 or 4 pieces on your platter. This is served with a small warm walnut loaf, black crackers, other cheese biscuits along with celery, a delightful chutney, quince jelly and grapes - £11.50

Absolutely no rushing you so we spent a good hour+ there. We also asked to see the dinner menu and what we liked about it was, there wasn't an overload of many items to choose from. Probably five main dishes covering lamb, Lemon Dover sole, Rissotto, A vegetarian dish and I forget the other. These ranged from £15 - £22.

Like all good restaurants, there's the steaks to choose from ranging from:
4oz Fillet - £24
To a 32oz T-Bone £38.

Really enjoyed it so booked a table for a dinner reservation with friends.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Has anyone else tried the new Seasons restaurant at Wickersley?

Called in yesterday for lunch. A very impressive lay out awaits you with excellent decor.

A touch pricey but it is a fine dining restaurant.

I ordered a Lobster sandwich on a brioche bun, which was accompanied with large tripled fried chips and a small salad. Plenty of large pieces of lobster which was delicious - £18
The good lady had a lamb burger again accompanied with large tripled fried chips and a small salad. The lamb was succulent to taste. - £16
A 250ml glass of Argentinian Malbec produced by finca Ferrer under the label of Acordeo'n. Have to say, it was an excellent wine = £9.50
A 125ml glass of Pino Grigio for the Wife which she complimented, as she isn't normally a white wine drinker - £7.50
To finish we shared a cheese platter of two cheeses, you can choose from 2 , 3 or 4 pieces on your platter. This is served with a small warm walnut loaf, black crackers, other cheese biscuits along with celery, a delightful chutney, quince jelly and grapes - £11.50

Absolutely no rushing you so we spent a good hour+ there. We also asked to see the dinner menu and what we liked about it was, there wasn't an overload of many items to choose from. Probably five main dishes covering lamb, Lemon Dover sole, Rissotto, A vegetarian dish and I forget the other. These ranged from £15 - £22.

Like all good restaurants, there's the steaks to choose from ranging from:
4oz Fillet - £24
To a 32oz T-Bone £38.

Really enjoyed it so booked a table for a dinner reservation with friends.

How big was your tip Brin?

[Brin]

How big was your tip Brin?

approx 10%. A courteous, professional, nice and friendly service was given by the young lady which I always reward, unless if it's poor then they get nothing. The Manager also shared some time with us explaining about the wine shortage etc which I found interesting and to my benefit.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

approx 10%. A courteous, professional, nice and friendly service was given by the young lady which I always reward, unless if it's poor then they get nothing. The Manager also shared some time with us explaining about the wine shortage etc which I found interesting and to my benefit.

Do you give it her directly or risk it being added to the bill and it being " shared out" ?

[John2]

Do you give it her directly or risk it being added to the bill and it being " shared out" ?

I have a strategy to avoid this risk: not tipping.

I think tipping is such a terrible system. The more an employee depends on tips for income, as in America, the more risk it puts them at. In America if you work at a restaurant that gets a bad news headline/review and custom suffers, you can't pay your mortgage and it's your problem. It removes a lot of the risk from the employer and places it with the employees.

We have a comparatively strong minimum and living wage in the UK.

It's odd that we decide some lower wage jobs deserve tips and some don't. Every time you tip you're really just subsidising the employer from having to pay the true market price.

High tippers are effectively subsidising those that don't (thank you).

It also creates this awkward dynamic. People argue they want good customer service generated by tipping, but I'd much rather have a person be authentically nice/good at their job, and the restaurants can get a reputation for the quality of their service by their hiring decisions.

Some people feel uncomfortable because the status quo is often to leave a tip, and they much rather wouldn't for all the reasons outlined above. To those people I say be brave, think of the bigger picture, end this bizarre system and let the price on the menu be the price you pay.

I'm open to counterarguments. And I do still tip in countries where people are dependent on it.

[Brin]

I have a strategy to avoid this risk: not tipping.

I think tipping is such a terrible system. The more an employee depends on tips for income, as in America, the more risk it puts them at. In America if you work at a restaurant that gets a bad news headline/review and custom suffers, you can't pay your mortgage and it's your problem. It removes a lot of the risk from the employer and places it with the employees.

We have a comparatively strong minimum and living wage in the UK.

It's odd that we decide some lower wage jobs deserve tips and some don't. Every time you tip you're really just subsidising the employer from having to pay the true market price.

High tippers are effectively subsidising those that don't (thank you).

It also creates this awkward dynamic. People argue they want good customer service generated by tipping, but I'd much rather have a person be authentically nice/good at their job, and the restaurants can get a reputation for the quality of their service by their hiring decisions.

Some people feel uncomfortable because the status quo is often to leave a tip, and they much rather wouldn't for all the reasons outlined above. To those people I say be brave, think of the bigger picture, end this bizarre system and let the price on the menu be the price you pay.

I'm open to counterarguments. And I do still tip in countries where people are dependent on it.

'strong minimum and living wage'? Try telling that to a kid at 17 and ask them what they're paid. It's all about individual choice at the end of the day and to show courtesy guarantees you a good service, well it does at Elupos. I do partly see your point though.

[Brin]

Do you give it her directly or risk it being added to the bill and it being " shared out" ?

Nearly always pay in cash to make sure the server gets the tip directly. My favourite restaurant around these parts is Elupos on Effingham Street. Been going there for 33+ years.

I pay for my meal then always hand the staff member their tip as they have a large tin they all put the tip money in to then they share it all at the end of the night.

[Brin]

There was a debate recently on the TV as a retaurant had started to add a tip charge before you had been served.

People were asked if they would tip first before being served. Ironically it was a close thing as some thought if they tipped first they may get a better service? Another person said they tip anyway so why not give it first. This is a kin to blackmail and bad practice by that particular restaurant. Certainly wouldn't get my business.

[Scum-Triumphant]

Has anyone else tried the new Seasons restaurant at Wickersley?

Called in yesterday for lunch. A very impressive lay out awaits you with excellent decor.

A touch pricey but it is a fine dining restaurant.

I ordered a Lobster sandwich on a brioche bun, which was accompanied with large tripled fried chips and a small salad. Plenty of large pieces of lobster which was delicious - £18
The good lady had a lamb burger again accompanied with large tripled fried chips and a small salad. The lamb was succulent to taste. - £16
A 250ml glass of Argentinian Malbec produced by finca Ferrer under the label of Acordeo'n. Have to say, it was an excellent wine = £9.50
A 125ml glass of Pino Grigio for the Wife which she complimented, as she isn't normally a white wine drinker - £7.50
To finish we shared a cheese platter of two cheeses, you can choose from 2 , 3 or 4 pieces on your platter. This is served with a small warm walnut loaf, black crackers, other cheese biscuits along with celery, a delightful chutney, quince jelly and grapes - £11.50

Absolutely no rushing you so we spent a good hour+ there. We also asked to see the dinner menu and what we liked about it was, there wasn't an overload of many items to choose from. Probably five main dishes covering lamb, Lemon Dover sole, Rissotto, A vegetarian dish and I forget the other. These ranged from £15 - £22.

Like all good restaurants, there's the steaks to choose from ranging from:
4oz Fillet - £24
To a 32oz T-Bone £38.

Really enjoyed it so booked a table for a dinner reservation with friends.

sounds spot on mate

I'll give it a go

I was once stopped when leaving a restaurant in Manhattan by the waitress who complained to me that I hadn't tipped enough.

[Brin]

sounds spot on mate

I'll give it a go

I was once stopped when leaving a restaurant in Manhattan by the waitress who complained to me that I hadn't tipped enough.

I once didn't tip anything and let the server know that polite manners, (too busy on her mobile) and good service, (ignored us more than once when trying to get her attention) doesn't cost anything, I think she got the message.