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Thread: 📝 Tobi Adebayo-Rowling Signs

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    I get that some don’t like a head coach approach. I do. The vast majority of managers at Notts since the mid 90’s have not lasted a season. They all sign 20 plus players and we are lumbered with dead wood. Whenever a team fails, players don’t get sacked, managers do.
    So why can’t it work to employ a coach and tell him, these are the tools you have, go get the best out of them? If he fails, you get the next man. It’s easier to sack one man than it is to get rid of 20.
    Any head coach in the mix to take over at Notts will be aware of this before they accept the challenge. They will be given a clear remit.
    Time will tell whether it works at Notts like it does much further up the football ladder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    That's the rose tinted view, the flip side is that the fabled 'stability' under these owners will result in us remaining a 'stable' non-league club. Players can be judged on a game by game basis, but owners can only really be judged when they leave. Did they make progress or not? Remember that both Trew and Hardy were very popular in their first season or two. I can't see these owners leaving us in a desperate state, but if we are in the same place when they exit I'll be a bit disappointed in them.

    The Trew meltdown started 3 years in (Kiwomya) and took another 3 years to explode (that Orient match)

    Hardy went from hero to villain in a very short space of time. bookies title favourites 18 months after taking over, 6 months later his nob is out and the club is up for sale.

    As we are, 3 years into the Reedtz era, I wouldn't bracket them in with Hardy or The Trews, I think it's a very similar vibe to the Trust, the relief of coming out of admin and near extinction acting as a pacifier for the ever lengthening list of disappointments that follow, but there comes a point where baby needs to be fed, otherwise it is inevitable that dummy will be spat out and toys will be thrown out of the pram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_OTF View Post
    Seems a few fans can't deal without there being some drama or a person/persons to have a go at. While the majority are quite happy Long live the nerd brothers and their sensible no drama approach.
    You know summat russ
    I don’t think for one second our owners will walk and will endeavour to put Notts on the right track with stability and then see how we grow.
    They are in a business where they need to make money with the radar situation and I’m sure they only have to pick up a phone to there father to be put back on the right track.
    They are a cool pair of characters and have no doubt learnt some lessons since there tenure
    As I’ve said in a previous post they got birch in for no fee, and because under contract have made a tidy sum in return
    So it’s ticked there box
    Expect it from other players we have as I can see on or two moving on

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    Sounds very excited to be here which is good. Interesting to hear he heard of the intrest a month ago so while IB was still manager. Him leaving hasn't seemed to have concerned him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    Yes, I remember the good one's too.
    There's also 96 clubs who've just finished above us, most of whom must have had better owners than us for the most part.

    The statement today suggests more of the same and seeing that the fan base is still largely made up of the same people who turned against both the Trews and Hardy (and rightly so), I do wonder if there's a pressure cooker situation developing which could explode much quicker than we've seen previously. At the time Fullarton was appointed we were mid-table. At this level the tipping point won't be as low.
    If only there were more good ones to remember UTM, nobody is restricted to only quoting one (AH) we have plenty to choose from certainly since I've been a fan

    When the season kicked off there were always going to be 90 who finished above us and that's the real point. When we were in L2, we only had to avoid one of the two relegation spots and we wouldn't be now restricted to 91st at best.

    The reason..... Well we all know the reason

    Speculating where the tipping point is at this moment in time is pointless IMO. Worrying about a significant drop off in attendances is needless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_OTF View Post
    Seems a few fans can't deal without there being some drama or a person/persons to have a go at.
    LOL you're not wrong!

    To be fair that's the way society seems going these days, not just football message boards. I don't know if it's caused by things like social media and saturation news coverage, or just exaggerated by it. I think if they're honest, most people (including me) who post on message boards like this will sometimes find themselves slipping into that mode, particularly after a bad result on a Saturday afternoon! You just hope to remain self-aware enough to rein it back in a bit the next day!

    What was it Kipling said? If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster and treat those two impostors just the same...

    Swale seems to be about the calmest, most rational poster on here, which is probably why he's the mod!
    Last edited by jackal2; 31-05-2022 at 08:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    That's the rose tinted view, the flip side is that the fabled 'stability' under these owners will result in us remaining a 'stable' non-league club. Players can be judged on a game by game basis, but owners can only really be judged when they leave. Did they make progress or not? Remember that both Trew and Hardy were very popular in their first season or two. I can't see these owners leaving us in a desperate state, but if we are in the same place when they exit I'll be a bit disappointed in them.
    I'd be disappointed too they need to see this through , stick to their guns and do everything thing they can to get this club back to EFL level without risking the club's existence like previous owners did.

    Saying that it would certainly still be progress compared to how Trew and Hardy left us, it's a very low bar. Disgraceful. We can't as a club have that again , us fans deserve better than how they treated us. Plus we are quickly running out of our 9 lives.

    You need a a solid base foundation to build any sort of success on. Our previous approach is akin to the roulette wheel at a casino with absolutely no connection between each spin of the managerial wheel.

    You can't have 20 years of decline and expect 2 it to only take a few years to reverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_OTF View Post
    Seems a few fans can't deal without there being some drama or a person/persons to have a go at. While the majority are quite happy Long live the nerd brothers and their sensible no drama approach.
    Mexican Soap Opera levels of melodrama. NCM feeds on this sort of ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    I'd be disappointed too they need to see this through , stick to their guns and do everything thing they can to get this club back to EFL level without risking the club's existence like previous owners did.

    Saying that it would certainly still be progress compared to how Trew and Hardy left us, it's a very low bar. Disgraceful. We can't as a club have that again , us fans deserve better than how they treated us. Plus we are quickly running out of our 9 lives.

    You need a a solid base foundation to build any sort of success on. Our previous approach is akin to the roulette wheel at a casino with absolutely no connection between each spin of the managerial wheel.

    You can't have 20 years of decline and expect 2 it to only take a few years to reverse.
    Absolutely true. I don't know everything that's happening behind the scenes and nor I suspect do most other observers, but from what I can see there's plenty to like about the way the current owners are running the club. That's not to say there aren't things to improve, of course there are, but until or unless we cease being in the promotion mix-up at the end of the season, or Winding Up orders start arriving (God forbid!), then I'm happy to be patient and show some faith in the current project. From little acorns and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    When the season kicked off there were always going to be 90 who finished above us and that's the real point. .
    That's the point YOU want to make, which is fine, it's perfectly valid and very true.

    My point is that almost all of those 96 clubs have had better owners, on the whole, than we have. So this notion that there's only owners of the quality of Trew, Hardy and Scardino out there and that these epic failures at Notts are the sole benchmark for measuring the competence of the Reedtz bros does not cut it with me.

    As I've said a few times now in recent days, the Reedtz are turning out to be yet another link in that ball and chain, which needs to be cut. Still time for them to do it, but based on the past three years I can't see it happening, especially not after that statement today.
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