What is it with Americans and guns!

[WBA123]

The Daily Telegraph reported that 1 million number. It's based on about 950k visas that the Home Office issued, plus another 60,000 channel crossers (2/3 allowed to stay).

BTW net migrations is immigrants minus outmigrants. In fact, you lost EU migrants and gained non-EU ones. Same sources.

Well if its based on Visa's then this is from the gov website..

There were 1,311,731 visas granted in 2021, 59% less than 2019 as a result of the global pandemic, but 36% higher than 2020. Of the visas granted in the latest 12 months, 33% were for study, 31% were to visit, 18% were to work, 3% were for family, and 14% for other reasons

Yes you're right about net migrations, but do you only count the incomings and not the outgoings? Seems a bit bizarre to me you are thinking that way.

Anyway, you didn't answer my question. What is the solution? Do we all take up arms and go to the coast?

[Robus]

Well if its based on Visa's then this is from the gov website..

There were 1,311,731 visas granted in 2021, 59% less than 2019 as a result of the global pandemic, but 36% higher than 2020. Of the visas granted in the latest 12 months, 33% were for study, 31% were to visit, 18% were to work, 3% were for family, and 14% for other reasons

Yes you're right about net migrations, but do you only count the incomings and not the outgoings? Seems a bit bizarre to me you are thinking that way.

Anyway, you didn't answer my question. What is the solution? Do we all take up arms and go to the coast?

The 1 million figure is from the Home Office and was for the year ending in 3/21. It's necessary to count immigration as well as net migration figures. It would be bizarre reporting only net migration. You'll find that many of those visitor visas are student family reunification, where a person comes over on a student visa, then imports the extended family to join him. You are being made fools of. It's happening to us too.

You cannot take up arms. You are defenseless. Put your trust in the benevolence of your government, the one that is flooding your country foreigners. Tony Blair promised to "ram diversity" "down the throats" of the British people through uncontrolled mass immigration. Since then the UK population has grown by 10 million, 84% of that result of immigration. Is Britain better for it?

I would answer your question about solutions with one of my own: What problem do YOU see with this situation? If you can't see a problem, or can't bring yourself to acknowledge it, or fear to do so publicly, join the crowd.

Here are a couple of videos if you are interested. The first is a brief commentary by your greatest living Briton--I mean Nigel Farage!--talking about your economic elite's addiction to cheap, low skilled foreign labor.

https://youtu.be/P8JRK_n8Xzg


The second is a longer conversation with a couple of Brits based in Swindon. They discuss mass immigration in the UK since Blair.

https://youtu.be/fH3pGECsx9k

[WBA123]

The 1 million figure is from the Home Office and was for the year ending in 3/21. It's necessary to count immigration as well as net migration figures. It would be bizarre reporting only net migration. You'll find that many of those visitor visas are student family reunification, where a person comes over on a student visa, then imports the extended family to join him. You are being made fools of. It's happening to us too.

You cannot take up arms. You are defenseless. Put your trust in the benevolence of your government, the one that is flooding your country foreigners. Tony Blair promised to "ram diversity" "down the throats" of the British people through uncontrolled mass immigration. Since then the UK population has grown by 10 million, 84% of that result of immigration. Is Britain better for it?

I would answer your question about solutions with one of my own: What problem do YOU see with this situation? If you can't see a problem, or can't bring yourself to acknowledge it, or fear to do so publicly, join the crowd.

Here are a couple of videos if you are interested. The first is a brief commentary by your greatest living Briton--I mean Nigel Farage!--talking about your economic elite's addiction to cheap, low skilled foreign labor.

https://youtu.be/P8JRK_n8Xzg


The second is a longer conversation with a couple of Brits based in Swindon. They discuss mass immigration in the UK since Blair.

https://youtu.be/fH3pGECsx9k

I'm a bit bored now by this conversation,

I live in London, feel safe and happy to have friends from a multitude of places around the globe. I don't think we are suffering because of it, I actually think the opposite. The vast majority of people who come here work their backsides off and contribute to society.

I will no longer watch or listen to Farage because I know for what he is, a lying charlatan who is given too much airtime. Although most posters on here think he's the messiah, I think he has severely damaged our country.

I just can't get my head around your logic, this is a thread about a school shooting in the USA, and the access your citizens have to guns. And you think it is somehow linked to immigration. Its just truly bizarre. I guess you have your view and I have mine. My only advice to you would be to open your mind a little and try to understand other cultures. Genuinely, you will feel enriched for it.

One more thing - Farage talking about the elite. Nothing hypocritical at all about that!

Have a nice day

[kettering_baggie]

I'm a bit bored now by this conversation,

I live in London, feel safe and happy to have friends from a multitude of places around the globe. I don't think we are suffering because of it, I actually think the opposite. The vast majority of people who come here work their backsides off and contribute to society.

I will no longer watch or listen to Farage because I know for what he is, a lying charlatan who is given too much airtime. Although most people on here think he's the messiah, I think he has severely damaged our country.

I just can't get my head around your logic, this is a thread about a school shooting in the USA, and the access your citizens have to guns. And you think it is somehow linked to immigration. Its just truly bizarre. I guess you have your view and I have mine. My only advice to you would be to open your mind a little and try to understand other cultures. Genuinely, you will feel enriched for it.

Have a nice day

You’re correct about Farage, the ‘Pied Piper’ of Brexit. I have said as much before but the more guns there are in society, the more people will be shot. If you feel the need for protection in your own home there are a number of alternatives to firearms.

[Robus]

I'm a bit bored now by this conversation,

I live in London, feel safe and happy to have friends from a multitude of places around the globe. I don't think we are suffering because of it, I actually think the opposite. The vast majority of people who come here work their backsides off and contribute to society.

I will no longer watch or listen to Farage because I know for what he is, a lying charlatan who is given too much airtime. Although most posters on here think he's the messiah, I think he has severely damaged our country.

I just can't get my head around your logic, this is a thread about a school shooting in the USA, and the access your citizens have to guns. And you think it is somehow linked to immigration. Its just truly bizarre. I guess you have your view and I have mine. My only advice to you would be to open your mind a little and try to understand other cultures. Genuinely, you will feel enriched for it.

One more thing - Farage talking about the elite. Nothing hypocritical at all about that!

Have a nice day

I understand. It's a rabbit hole of a topic.

You've a longer memory of Farage than me, but in the decade approximately since I became aware of him his message has been consistent. As an outsider he seems to me to have been one of the most effective upstart politicians you've had in a long time--since Wilberforce? First UKIP, and then the Brexit Party. His effectiveness was in pointing out that your leader really don't care what the English or British think about borders, immigration, or sovereignty. Don't care. He shamed the Tories into delivering what they promised, else #Brexit would have been stolen from you. For that, he deserves to have a statue erected, which gangs of university communists admitted by racial preferences will pull down some day, chanting against white supremacy.