What is it with Americans and guns!

[Robus]

Well if its based on Visa's then this is from the gov website..

There were 1,311,731 visas granted in 2021, 59% less than 2019 as a result of the global pandemic, but 36% higher than 2020. Of the visas granted in the latest 12 months, 33% were for study, 31% were to visit, 18% were to work, 3% were for family, and 14% for other reasons

Yes you're right about net migrations, but do you only count the incomings and not the outgoings? Seems a bit bizarre to me you are thinking that way.

Anyway, you didn't answer my question. What is the solution? Do we all take up arms and go to the coast?

The 1 million figure is from the Home Office and was for the year ending in 3/21. It's necessary to count immigration as well as net migration figures. It would be bizarre reporting only net migration. You'll find that many of those visitor visas are student family reunification, where a person comes over on a student visa, then imports the extended family to join him. You are being made fools of. It's happening to us too.

You cannot take up arms. You are defenseless. Put your trust in the benevolence of your government, the one that is flooding your country foreigners. Tony Blair promised to "ram diversity" "down the throats" of the British people through uncontrolled mass immigration. Since then the UK population has grown by 10 million, 84% of that result of immigration. Is Britain better for it?

I would answer your question about solutions with one of my own: What problem do YOU see with this situation? If you can't see a problem, or can't bring yourself to acknowledge it, or fear to do so publicly, join the crowd.

Here are a couple of videos if you are interested. The first is a brief commentary by your greatest living Briton--I mean Nigel Farage!--talking about your economic elite's addiction to cheap, low skilled foreign labor.

https://youtu.be/P8JRK_n8Xzg


The second is a longer conversation with a couple of Brits based in Swindon. They discuss mass immigration in the UK since Blair.

https://youtu.be/fH3pGECsx9k

[WBA123]

The 1 million figure is from the Home Office and was for the year ending in 3/21. It's necessary to count immigration as well as net migration figures. It would be bizarre reporting only net migration. You'll find that many of those visitor visas are student family reunification, where a person comes over on a student visa, then imports the extended family to join him. You are being made fools of. It's happening to us too.

You cannot take up arms. You are defenseless. Put your trust in the benevolence of your government, the one that is flooding your country foreigners. Tony Blair promised to "ram diversity" "down the throats" of the British people through uncontrolled mass immigration. Since then the UK population has grown by 10 million, 84% of that result of immigration. Is Britain better for it?

I would answer your question about solutions with one of my own: What problem do YOU see with this situation? If you can't see a problem, or can't bring yourself to acknowledge it, or fear to do so publicly, join the crowd.

Here are a couple of videos if you are interested. The first is a brief commentary by your greatest living Briton--I mean Nigel Farage!--talking about your economic elite's addiction to cheap, low skilled foreign labor.

https://youtu.be/P8JRK_n8Xzg


The second is a longer conversation with a couple of Brits based in Swindon. They discuss mass immigration in the UK since Blair.

https://youtu.be/fH3pGECsx9k

I'm a bit bored now by this conversation,

I live in London, feel safe and happy to have friends from a multitude of places around the globe. I don't think we are suffering because of it, I actually think the opposite. The vast majority of people who come here work their backsides off and contribute to society.

I will no longer watch or listen to Farage because I know for what he is, a lying charlatan who is given too much airtime. Although most posters on here think he's the messiah, I think he has severely damaged our country.

I just can't get my head around your logic, this is a thread about a school shooting in the USA, and the access your citizens have to guns. And you think it is somehow linked to immigration. Its just truly bizarre. I guess you have your view and I have mine. My only advice to you would be to open your mind a little and try to understand other cultures. Genuinely, you will feel enriched for it.

One more thing - Farage talking about the elite. Nothing hypocritical at all about that!

Have a nice day

[kettering_baggie]

I'm a bit bored now by this conversation,

I live in London, feel safe and happy to have friends from a multitude of places around the globe. I don't think we are suffering because of it, I actually think the opposite. The vast majority of people who come here work their backsides off and contribute to society.

I will no longer watch or listen to Farage because I know for what he is, a lying charlatan who is given too much airtime. Although most people on here think he's the messiah, I think he has severely damaged our country.

I just can't get my head around your logic, this is a thread about a school shooting in the USA, and the access your citizens have to guns. And you think it is somehow linked to immigration. Its just truly bizarre. I guess you have your view and I have mine. My only advice to you would be to open your mind a little and try to understand other cultures. Genuinely, you will feel enriched for it.

Have a nice day

You’re correct about Farage, the ‘Pied Piper’ of Brexit. I have said as much before but the more guns there are in society, the more people will be shot. If you feel the need for protection in your own home there are a number of alternatives to firearms.

[baggieal]

You’re correct about Farage, the ‘Pied Piper’ of Brexit. I have said as much before but the more guns there are in society, the more people will be shot. If you feel the need for protection in your own home there are a number of alternatives to firearms.

I prefer my daughters rounders bat!

[baggiematt]

The incredible irony of someone living in America having a pop about immigration must be totally lost on this guy.

Unless I’ve totally misread the situation and he’s commenting on this thread with his peace pipe in hand…

[Robus]

The incredible irony of someone living in America having a pop about immigration must be totally lost on this guy.

Unless I’ve totally misread the situation and he’s commenting on this thread with his peace pipe in hand…

Translation: "Americans really have no right to live within secure borders. PS. Neither do we English."

We will see about that. We deciding right now whether our children and grandchildren will have a place to call home on this planet. I hope we will not surrender.

[Albionic68]

Translation: "Americans really have no right to live within secure borders. PS. Neither do we English."

We will see about that. We deciding right now whether our children and grandchildren will have a place to call home on this planet. I hope we will not surrender.

No wish to add fuel to a fire but I think his point has sailed over your head like a stray bullet.

Unless you're a native American, you yourself and your direct lineage are...... immigrants. Not judging you in this respect.

By the way, genuinely interested to know your weapon(s) of choice while touring the land of the brave and the home of the free on your motorbike.

In my minds eye you must look like an extra from a Mad Max movie with a belt fed machine gun mounted on a sidecar for whomever rides pillion 😊 .

[kettering_baggie]

Translation: "Americans really have no right to live within secure borders. PS. Neither do we English."

We will see about that. We deciding right now whether our children and grandchildren will have a place to call home on this planet. I hope we will not surrender.

Immigration has been badly managed in many countries but you cannot blame people wanting to find a better life for themselves and escape from poverty and war. Politicians in western countries are the ones to blame for this mismanagement but the idea that we should all arm ourselves with automatic weapons, presumably to aim them at immigrants, is absurd. Hatred breeds hatred and aggression generates more aggression; there is surely a better way than buying a machine gun!

[Albionic68]

Oh for a replica from Handsworth to deter intruders eh 😉 ?

[kettering_baggie]

No wish to add fuel to a fire but I think his point has sailed over your head like a stray bullet.

Unless you're a native American, you yourself and your direct lineage are...... immigrants. Not judging you in this respect.

By the way, genuinely interested to know your weapon(s) of choice while touring the land of the brave and the home of the free on your motorbike.

In my minds eye you must look like an extra from a Mad Max movie with a belt fed machine gun mounted on a sidecar for whomever rides pillion �� .

There used to be a bloke that regularly attended the Summer ‘bike nights on Poole Quay riding an old Cossack motorcycle and sidecar; the sidecar had a machine gun mounting on the front, and yes, he did have the weapon on board! However, the sidecar passenger probably posed a greater threat to miscreants, it was an enormous, long haired German Shepherd! The bloke said that he never needed to lock the outfit, there was a large bone hanging from the back of the sidecar, he ‘suggested’ that it was the remains of a potential thief…….!