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Thread: Fire Sale starts

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    Was that one of your boats up in flames in Torquay harbour C-M? Looked nasty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrie_burn View Post
    Bit negative there CiB.I hope we draw the line At Pope,McNeil & Cornet.

    Hennessey in goal with BPF as No 2 and our defence is ok,Maybe one signing for midfield and make the rest up with loans.Barnes & Rodriguez
    ok for one more season.Now will be the time to see what we have from the Academy and we are not aware of what exactly is the financial situation now.Tarks,Stephens,Gudmonsson,Bardsley,Pope,McNeil & Cornet off the wage bill.Give Vydra a one year deal and see how he fits in when fit.
    Nothing negative just being realistic.If the rumours about VK are true then the current squad will need to adapt to a style of play very much opposite to Dycheball and most of them are not up to it technically so they will be off.The ones that are such as Cornet and Mcneill will be gone in the fire sale so we will need a bunch of loanee`s.That is my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Nothing negative just being realistic.If the rumours about VK are true then the current squad will need to adapt to a style of play very much opposite to Dycheball and most of them are not up to it technically so they will be off.The ones that are such as Cornet and Mcneill will be gone in the fire sale so we will need a bunch of loanee`s.That is my opinion.
    Not sure how many loan players you are allowed,may have to rely on one or two coming through from the Academy.It's time anyway for one or two of them to see if they can make the grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrie_burn View Post
    Not sure how many loan players you are allowed,may have to rely on one or two coming through from the Academy.It's time anyway for one or two of them to see if they can make the grade.
    I have posted this before, albeit pre-Kompany - so who knows what the new gaffer will do!

    We will probably have a squad containing Hennessey, BPF, Roberts, Collins, Long, Mee (?), Taylor (?), Westwood, Lowton, Cork, Rodriguez, Barnes (?), Gudmundsson, Vydra (?), Weghorst (?), Gomez Mancini, Costello, Helm, Richardson, and Thompson left to form the nucleus of a Championship side.

    (?) are obviously added because the players concerned may either not sign new contracts or will be sold to balance the books. If the question marked players leave, hopefully Vinny can bridge the gap with loans and bargain buys from Europe.

    Brownhill, Cornet, McNeil, and Pope will no doubt be used as sacrificial lambs to pay off the massive debt that the EPL should never have allowed us to be lumbered with when Garlick manipulated the sale.

    I can still see light at the end of the tunnel, and I'm having £50.00 at 12-1 for us to win the Championship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Nothing negative just being realistic.If the rumours about VK are true then the current squad will need to adapt to a style of play very much opposite to Dycheball and most of them are not up to it technically so they will be off.The ones that are such as Cornet and Mcneill will be gone in the fire sale so we will need a bunch of loanee`s.That is my opinion.
    I get the stance CIB but maybe we’re judging a bit too quickly I mean if you work for someone and they say you do it like this day in day out you become conditioned to it and basically do your job.

    The point I’m making is do we think POPE would t improve if he went to spurs say and play out from the back with his feet , a problem that everyone seems to think he has including the England boss - in the same way that Dyche said hit the big man up front at every opportunity Conte will say play to our full backs and practice until you can do it with ease.

    It’s all about conditioning to a way of play ours was lump it there’s is play through backs and midfield.

    I do think that some of our team maybe able to adapt , especially dropping down a level like we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    I get the stance CIB but maybe we’re judging a bit too quickly I mean if you work for someone and they say you do it like this day in day out you become conditioned to it and basically do your job.

    The point I’m making is do we think POPE would t improve if he went to spurs say and play out from the back with his feet , a problem that everyone seems to think he has including the England boss - in the same way that Dyche said hit the big man up front at every opportunity Conte will say play to our full backs and practice until you can do it with ease.

    It’s all about conditioning to a way of play ours was lump it there’s is play through backs and midfield.

    I do think that some of our team maybe able to adapt , especially dropping down a level like we are.
    Yes they can try to adapt but if you do not have the technical ability then you wont be able to.If we are brutally honest the team we will have left are a bunch of honest workhorses who will give their all but are not suited to the Pep style of playing.Even going down a division if he tries to play like Pep with our bunch they will get found out.It would need around 5-6 new players in midfield and up front to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    Yes they can try to adapt but if you do not have the technical ability then you wont be able to.If we are brutally honest the team we will have left are a bunch of honest workhorses who will give their all but are not suited to the Pep style of playing.Even going down a division if he tries to play like Pep with our bunch they will get found out.It would need around 5-6 new players in midfield and up front to do that.
    All this bollox about the technical ability of professional footballers, Johann Cruyff and Pele aside, go and watch our lot in training. Back in the old Fourth Division I was invited down to Gawthorpe.

    They were all doing 100 keepie-uppies, even the sadly departed Whoosh looked a world beater. Vinny will get our lot playing proper attacking football, but get ready to start conceding because it's hard to have it all ways unless we get a reincarnated Jimmy McIlroy back.

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    Style of play bollox, as with everything, follow the money, and we ain't got none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Style of play bollox, as with everything, follow the money, and we ain't got none.
    There's a rumour going round that Pace is all set to borrow another £100 million from a Chinese bank.

    Wot could possibly go wong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    All this bollox about the technical ability of professional footballers, Johann Cruyff and Pele aside, go and watch our lot in training. Back in the old Fourth Division I was invited down to Gawthorpe.

    They were all doing 100 keepie-uppies, even the sadly departed Whoosh looked a world beater. Vinny will get our lot playing proper attacking football, but get ready to start conceding because it's hard to have it all ways unless we get a reincarnated Jimmy McIlroy back.
    Football has progressed so much over the years that Burnley conceded 1.39 goals per game and were relegated whereas in 1959/60 they conceded 1.45 goals per game and were Champions.
    Last season the over-hyped Premier League, with all its super players with technical ability, averaged 2.82 goals per game, whereas the old First Division, which existed before football was invented for many people, averaged 3.85 goals per game in 1959/60 when the Clarets were Champions.

    Yes football has progressed because there are now people obsessing about how many passes per game a team makes, regardless of the fact that it is usually the centre back who has the most touches and most passes.

    When Burnley were Champions they had the equivalent of 79 points, the club at the bottom of the league were Luton who had the equivalent 0f 39 points and Leeds were also relegated with equivalent of 46 points, Forest just stayed up with equivalent 48 points. The gap between top and bottom was equivalent 40 points.

    Compare this to last season in the PL. City were Champions with 93 points. The club equivalent to Forest in 1959/60, who were 31 points from the top were Man United, who finished in 5th place with 35 points fewer that City. The club which was 40 points behind were Leicester (41 points behind) who finished in 8th place. The bottom three clubs were 58, 70 and 71 points away from the Champions.

    The game is nowhere near as good as it was 60 years ago when you had players who wanted to play and were not weighted down by their pay packets and there wasn't an obsession with possession, number of passes etc. Also remember that the pitches and equipment were nowhere near the standard of today and players could tackle, win the ball and have no fear of being cautioned or dismissed for endangering an opponent, being reckless, using undue force etc., etc.

    Good morning to all, have a lovely Bank Holiday break, even if you do not agree with the celebrations or my post. Life goes on and all is well in the north east with lots of happy Geordies who think that they will be Champions within the next two seasons and Mackems who are just delirious because they have escaped League One.

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