Quote Originally Posted by Robus View Post
From my side of the paradigm shift, that is utterly the wrong question to ask. I remember discussions around this forum back in 2011. There were people saying: "We can rebuild the burned out blocks, but we cannot restore the lives of the rioters that we might take." That kind of thinking will cost you lives but much more.

Did you hear the aghast in the voice of that man taking the Woolwich video? That's a man seeing the Leviathan as a toothless hag, good for taxing your television and policing the internet but incapable of performing the essential function of a state. I hear the social contract shattering.
I dread to think of the number of innocent people who would have died if the rioters had guns in 2011. An awful example of how guns ‘protect’ people.

You may feel safer with a gun. You may feel like you can handle an intruder better. But if guns are used for defensive purposes, then they will also be used for offensive purposes. And the trade off for having this false sense of security is the safety of your children.

As I said before, it’s pure cowardice and plain stupidity not dealing with the issue. 27 school massacres in one year, it’s time your country manned up and protected your kids from yourselves.