O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Elite_Pie]

So the Sue Gray report has thrown up three options:

1. Boris Johnson is lying through his teeth.
2. Boris Johnson hasn't got a clue what's happening around him.
3. Boris Johnson is happy for the country to be governed under the influence of alcohol.

All three options show that Boris Johnson should resign.

Anyone with more than one brain cell knows it's option one, but incredibly a lot don't seem bothered.

[Elite_Pie]

So only 59% of Tory MPs have confidence in Boris Johnson as our leader. When you consider that a fair number of the 59% who voted for him will have put their career prospects above their morals, that's pretty damning. How many of the electorate have confidence in him? He will never resign, so hopefully a few more of the Tory sycophants will perform a U-turn in the coming weeks. This country deserves so much better.

[magpie_mania]

So only 59% of Tory MPs have confidence in Boris Johnson as our leader. When you consider that a fair number of the 59% who voted for him will have put their career prospects above their morals, that's pretty damning. How many of the electorate have confidence in him? He will never resign, so hopefully a few more of the Tory sycophants will perform a U-turn in the coming weeks. This country deserves so much better.

'Now we can get on with the job, that's what the public want us to do'

Yes it is ........ Just a huge number that don't want you to be in charge Boris!

Can't see how this has improved things ..... just made them a whole lot worse I think.

[i961pie]

He is a lame duck leader now and it is only a matter of time before he goes.
I would have thought though from a Labour point of view having Boris in charge at the next election would surely win them power. 41% of his own party don't want him never mind the electorate.
Getting a new leader might unite the party and they then would have a couple of years to convince the country to vote them in again.

[OP67]

He is a lame duck leader now and it is only a matter of time before he goes.
I would have thought though from a Labour point of view having Boris in charge at the next election would surely win them power. 41% of his own party don't want him never mind the electorate.
Getting a new leader might unite the party and they then would have a couple of years to convince the country to vote them in again.

That would have to be the biggest swing in history for Labour to overturn the majority the Tories have. I can see the Lib Dems taking a number of both Labour and Tory votes if they both enter the next election which their current leaders. Labour still has a massive chunk of Corbyn lovers who will not back Starmer. That would lead to another Tory government though.

[Magpies1959]

If Johnson goes, expect a return to the EU. The country is now being run by the media, much it is in the USA, see Trump for details. They have stopped reporting the news and just give their opinions.
Even GB News now has an ex BBC man in charge of their news. Their Twitter feed has changed noticeably, and reads more like the Guardian.
Oh for a bit of balance.
Waits for EP and BFP to comment 🤣

[hissingdwarf]

That would have to be the biggest swing in history for Labour to overturn the majority the Tories have. I can see the Lib Dems taking a number of both Labour and Tory votes if they both enter the next election which their current leaders. Labour still has a massive chunk of Corbyn lovers who will not back Starmer. That would lead to another Tory government though.

There aren’t that many left now.
Labour membership hit its highest figures whilst JC was in charge and now sits at a low because most left wingers cancelled their subs.
Voting wise, you’re right though. Most JC supporters won’t vote for Starmer. Plus add into that the removal of the “donkey work” for the party. It’s well known in Labour circles, that on a wet and windy door knocking session, it’s always the lefties that turn up. The right wing of the party only like the sunshine and the photo opp!

I’d give Johnson 3 months at most now. Dead man walking.

[GranthamPie]

There aren’t that many left now.
Labour membership hit its highest figures whilst JC was in charge and now sits at a low because most left wingers cancelled their subs.
Voting wise, you’re right though. Most JC supporters won’t vote for Starmer. Plus add into that the removal of the “donkey work” for the party. It’s well known in Labour circles, that on a wet and windy door knocking session, it’s always the lefties that turn up. The right wing of the party only like the sunshine and the photo opp!

I’d give Johnson 3 months at most now. Dead man walking.

As a former Labour member and JC supporter, the biggest reason for not voting for Tory Boy Starmer, is the fact that he deliberately threw the last election by jumping on the “Peoples Vote” bandwagon, knowing it undermined the partys position on Brexit. He was just a small part of a right wing, Blairite coup in the party… these people knew exactly what they were doing.

Two years on… Starmer us still too scared to release the Forde Report… he knows it will be the end of him and his cabal of soft Tories.

I’ll never vote Labour again.. ever.

[SmiffyPie]

As a former Labour member and JC supporter, the biggest reason for not voting for Tory Boy Starmer, is the fact that he deliberately threw the last election by jumping on the “Peoples Vote” bandwagon, knowing it undermined the partys position on Brexit. He was just a small part of a right wing, Blairite coup in the party… these people knew exactly what they were doing.

Two years on… Starmer us still too scared to release the Forde Report… he knows it will be the end of him and his cabal of soft Tories.

I’ll never vote Labour again.. ever.

We are in a political wilderness. I cannot name one politician (whatever flavour) that is worthy of leading the country.

[hissingdwarf]

As a former Labour member and JC supporter, the biggest reason for not voting for Tory Boy Starmer, is the fact that he deliberately threw the last election by jumping on the “Peoples Vote” bandwagon, knowing it undermined the partys position on Brexit. He was just a small part of a right wing, Blairite coup in the party… these people knew exactly what they were doing.

Two years on… Starmer us still too scared to release the Forde Report… he knows it will be the end of him and his cabal of soft Tories.

I’ll never vote Labour again.. ever.

Exactly the same mate. I was one step further, standing for local council under the Labour banner when JC was leading. Always been a socialist and proud of it. Not going to argue with the modding dogs on here though about it.
As you say, the dots have joined up nicely for Blairites now. Forde buried. Starmer standing on a Tory lite manifesto (even though his 10 pledges when being elected were quite different!)
Fool me once…Blair in the first place….fool me twice now…
Never again. As Smiffy said.
Total political wilderness now. No clear vote. Another failing of the left is to offer a clear alternative when the chips are down. For me personally, I’m better off out of it. The internal wrangles of the LP locally and Nationally were ridiculously bad. Dare say it’s even worse now.