OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Geoff Parkstone]

Oh and mandatory voting on pain of death - well maybe a fine - that way rA cannot moan about majority of those voting/minority of electorate decision making

[ramAnag]

Perhaps surprisingly, I think there is a deal of sense in that position, if we exclude the vindictive levels to which it stoops the further the post goes!

A centrist coalition would be desirable and a Norwegian solution to Brin would have my support IF it was limited to trade and excluded any United States of Europe elements.

But then I think that is probably fantasy as the vested interests would soon tear apart any coalition, so my more radical solution would be to ban all political parties and have a parliaments of (say) 500 representatives elected by STV with no political cause affiliation.

No party donations, no party sponsorships by unions or business or other pressure groups. Well in fact no parties. Each candidate being allocated a part of a central campaign fund, with those not meeting a minimum voter support having to give it back. Individual responsibility for actions in parliament - responsible to the electorate at constituency level direct. You **** up, you're out. Increase MP salaries to more viable levels, abolish expense claims. Hold all meetings on zoom so your MP can stay in his or her constituency

Policies to be put to this parliament by the civil service (sorry stolen an EU Commission concept here) rather than being dreamed up by a cabinet or shadow cabinet and agreed by majority / consensus of the 500 MP's.

So no PM, no cabinet but a forum for agreeing policies proposed by professionals, greater constituency level interaction and accountability and well, who knows, a fresh start from the poison of the two party state.

Much to be said for that too. Consensus already! Apologies for the ‘vindictiveness’. I was joking...sort of. Here’s another joke (also sort of). Nadine Dorries is what happens when the ventriloquist dies and the dummy keeps talking.

[MadAmster]

P.S. I’d also outlaw MP’s behaving like the worst of 1950’s public school brats by banging their desks to signify their agreement as they did (again) in this morning’s Cabinet meeting. It’s loutish, boorish and frankly ridiculous...like a scene from ‘If’.

Well, old chap, they've been doing it for centuries and is simply expected of them. Pr@s

[swaledale]

Blimey its even dawning on the right wing papers that perpetuated the lies about Brexit, that its failing and ****ing the Uk's economy!!

Brexit was meant to be a “new beginning for the Tory party,” Jeremy Warner wrote this week in the Daily Telegraph, “but by making trade with Europe more difficult and costly it has so far only added to the country’s travails”. In its coverage of recent OECD warnings, the Daily Mail reported that the UK economy “is set to flatline next year – performing worse than every other G20 country except for sanctions-crippled Russia”. Most of these countries have also felt the consequences of the war in Ukraine and the Covid epidemic – but not, of course, Brexit.

To date, the staunch Brexiteers have been blaming everything, Covid, the EU (for not bending over when the Uk tells it to) and of course the war in Ukraine for its economic woes. Of course there is some truth in this, but when one compares the way the NI economy is growing and the rest of the Uk is stagnating, it's obvious that remaining in the single market has done wonders for the NI businesses, which is why barring some subtle tweaks, they are not that bothered about the NI protocol and perhaps explains why the Government seems determined to further destroy the UK's reputation by looking to override it and break an international treaty they signed up to!

Why even a Tory MP this week suggested it was time to think about re-joining the single market, after all Brexit has failed, especially a hard Brexit, for which there was no mandate and only a bunch of fools would continue to destroy the Uk's economic prospects by refusing to bow to the inevitable.

[ramAnag]

Why even a Tory MP this week suggested it was time to think about re-joining the single market, after all Brexit has failed, especially a hard Brexit, for which there was no mandate and only a bunch of fools would continue to destroy the Uk's economic prospects by refusing to bow to the inevitable.

...and there, unfortunately, you have it. ‘Nutshell’ time!

Coincidentally, drove past the first poster I’ve seen in a house window yesterday, ‘Brexit isn’t working. Rejoin the EU’. I suspect there will be many more to come before long. One step at a time...first the single market.

[swaledale]

If ever there was an example of the ****wits that back Brexit and this bunch of incompetents who compose what is laughingly called a government, its this frothing at the mouth about the role of the ECHR in stopping the inhumane deportation of refugees to Rwanda.

Just for the record, the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU!

The UK was one of the founders, with Churchill being a strong supporter.

I don't recall that Brexit was about breaking international law or not observing human rights, or would vote leave not put on the side of the bus, vote for Brexit and a fascist dictatorship that can target anybody we happen not to like or who disagrees with us at any one moment in time.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Shame really, I hear Rwanda can be quite nice this time of year

[ramAnag]

Shame really, I hear Rwanda can be quite nice this time of year

Probably...for some.

Maybe the real ‘shame’ is the fact that our government is seeking to illegally transport people to a country it described less than 18 months ago as needing to, ‘conduct transparent, credible and independent investigations into allegations of extrajudicial killing, deaths in custody, enforced disappearance and torture.

Our government also identified the need for the Rwandan authorities to, ‘screen, identify and support victims including those held in Government transit centres’.

Now remind me...who lost his second ‘ethics advisor’ earlier today.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Was it me?

[ramAnag]

Was it me?

Lol...no, you’ve never had one ...but at least you have a thorough knowledge and understanding of your job.

No more appropriate song for Johnson, Patel and for that matter, Quantuma than, ‘You don’t know what you’re doing’, hopefully followed by...
‘Sacked in the morning!’