Boris for the CHOP..?

[sinkov]

The BBC has calculated........and you believe the BBC Sinkov? I honestly thought you had more sense.

In this case I do CiB, Gove said it was £44k and the BBC, of course, has Fact Checked him and said it's £38k. Bit of an own goal by the Fake News Factory, but I'll take their word for it on this one.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

In this case I do CiB, Gove said it was £44k and the BBC, of course, has Fact Checked him and said it's £38k. Bit of an own goal by the Fake News Factory, but I'll take their word for it on this one.

It won't come as a surprise to you sinkov, but I joined a few of my old Labour party mates on a RMT picket line outside Bolton train station last week. £18,000 was about the average for a 40 hour week if you are employed by Northern. The BBC talk bollox.

[ClaretinBudapest]

It won't come as a surprise to you sinkov, but I joined a few of my old Labour party mates on a RMT picket line outside Bolton train station last week. £18,000 was about the average for a 40 hour week if you are employed by Northern. The BBC talk bollox.

Most people are sympathetic to the rail workers according to surveys.The public are beginning to wake up to the fact that after 12 years of Tory mismanagement of the economy and Brexit, they are much worse off and there needs to be a shift away from the rich get much richer and the workers get poorer.

[sinkov]

It won't come as a surprise to you sinkov, but I joined a few of my old Labour party mates on a RMT picket line outside Bolton train station last week. £18,000 was about the average for a 40 hour week if you are employed by Northern. The BBC talk bollox.

I think your mates on the Picket Line are putting you away mon ami, this is from your Lefty Bible, the Grauniad,

"The average RMT member in rail earns about £33,000, according to the union – taken across every role, from in-house cleaners and onboard crew at train operators, to maintenance roles and signallers at Network Rail.

The average signaller earns £44,000, according to Network Rail. The average pay for a maintenance worker is £31,000, and the overall average for Network Rail RMT members is £36,000.

Salaries around train companies vary. One long-distance train operator pays about £23,000 for a station assistant, £25,000 for a customer service host, £32,000 for a conductor, and £38,000 for a train manager.

Another train operator based in the south-east pays between £21,000 and £30,000 to station staff as a baseline. Higher rates are paid to those working in central London and doing antisocial shifts: staff can earn £3,000 to £4,000 more in London weighting and roughly the same again for flexible shifts. Platform and gateline staff are on the lowest salaries, with ticket office staff earning £24,000 to £26,000 and controllers at the terminals earning about £30,000."

Are the Socialist Worker crew still turning out to picket, proper Commies them lads and lasses, salt of the earth. I won't hear a word against them.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I think your mates on the Picket Line are putting you away mon ami, this is from your Lefty Bible, the Grauniad,

"The average RMT member in rail earns about £33,000, according to the union – taken across every role, from in-house cleaners and onboard crew at train operators, to maintenance roles and signallers at Network Rail.

The average signaller earns £44,000, according to Network Rail. The average pay for a maintenance worker is £31,000, and the overall average for Network Rail RMT members is £36,000.

Salaries around train companies vary. One long-distance train operator pays about £23,000 for a station assistant, £25,000 for a customer service host, £32,000 for a conductor, and £38,000 for a train manager.

Another train operator based in the south-east pays between £21,000 and £30,000 to station staff as a baseline. Higher rates are paid to those working in central London and doing antisocial shifts: staff can earn £3,000 to £4,000 more in London weighting and roughly the same again for flexible shifts. Platform and gateline staff are on the lowest salaries, with ticket office staff earning £24,000 to £26,000 and controllers at the terminals earning about £30,000."

Are the Socialist Worker crew still turning out to picket, proper Commies them lads and lasses, salt of the earth. I won't hear a word against them.

One of the lads on the picket line offered to show me his pay slip. He never takes home more than £320.00 per week and that sum can include "unsocial hours bonus".
Northern Rail are a crap train operator and rubbish employers too. Comes as no major surprise really, because it is now owned by DfT - OLR Holdings for the Department for Transport, because the previous operator Arriva Rail North had its franchise terminated at the end of February 2020, owing to horrible performance and lack of customer "service".

[army88]

One of the lads on the picket line offered to show me his pay slip. He never takes home more than £320.00 per week and that sum can include "unsocial hours bonus".
Northern Rail are a crap train operator and rubbish employers too. Comes as no major surprise really, because it is now owned by DfT - OLR Holdings for the Department for Transport, because the previous operator Arriva Rail North had its franchise terminated at the end of February 2020, owing to horrible performance and lack of customer "service".

Can’t understand why your on your high horse BT , everyone is affected by what they’re doing and also standard of living due to the rises in just about everything.

I’m self employed do we think the unions will help me get a 30% rise - the answer is no - can I. Increase my charges the answer is no

Do I get paid leave - the answer is no

Do I go to work when I’ll - generally the answer is yes because I have to

So do I contribute to keep the country going when others ( employed ) can’t be arsed to even turn up - the answers yes to that as well.

They don’t know their born half of them they’ll be closely followed by teachers and union backed businesses.

My point is it’s tough for All of us , I know people on less money than them as well for what it’s worth.

[Supersub6]

Can’t understand why your on your high horse BT , everyone is affected by what they’re doing and also standard of living due to the rises in just about everything.

I’m self employed do we think the unions will help me get a 30% rise - the answer is no - can I. Increase my charges the answer is no

Do I get paid leave - the answer is no

Do I go to work when I’ll - generally the answer is yes because I have to

So do I contribute to keep the country going when others ( employed ) can’t be arsed to even turn up - the answers yes to that as well.

They don’t know their born half of them they’ll be closely followed by teachers and union backed businesses.

My point is it’s tough for All of us , I know people on less money than them as well for what it’s worth.

army --I have to agree with all of that, having run a business myself for 23 years after I left the RAF. I employed 5 people, was an expert in my field and could not take one day off because the whole business revolved on my being able to go out and buy the stuff which I needed to sell. No days off, no illness and no help from anywhere else. We would not have survived the Pandemic.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

army --I have to agree with all of that, having run a business myself for 23 years after I left the RAF. I employed 5 people, was an expert in my field and could not take one day off because the whole business revolved on my being able to go out and buy the stuff which I needed to sell. No days off, no illness and no help from anywhere else. We would not have survived the Pandemic.

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

Can’t understand why your on your high horse BT , everyone is affected by what they’re doing and also standard of living due to the rises in just about everything.

I’m self employed do we think the unions will help me get a 30% rise - the answer is no - can I. Increase my charges the answer is no

Do I get paid leave - the answer is no

Do I go to work when I’ll - generally the answer is yes because I have to

So do I contribute to keep the country going when others ( employed ) can’t be arsed to even turn up - the answers yes to that as well.

They don’t know their born half of them they’ll be closely followed by teachers and union backed businesses.

My point is it’s tough for All of us , I know people on less money than them as well for what it’s worth.

You are self employed by choice army88. You pick your own hours, work long enough to earn the corn you need to survive.

You have no nincompoop earning 3 x times more than you do dictating your wage and terms of service.

Members of the RMT and bucket loads of public sector workers simply cannot survive on yet another 0% "pay rise". If this government cannot take the heat they need to get out of the kitchen.

Incidentally, which current trade union is trying to negotiate a "30% rise?"

[army88]

You are self employed by choice army88. You pick your own hours, work long enough to earn the corn you need to survive.

You have no nincompoop earning 3 x times more than you do dictating your wage and terms of service.

Members of the RMT and bucket loads of public sector workers simply cannot survive on yet another 0% "pay rise". If this government cannot take the heat they need to get out of the kitchen.

Incidentally, which current trade union is trying to negotiate a "30% rise?"

You’re right BT my choice also all of their choices to do what they do let’s not forget that.

As I said before no one gives a s-hit about the self employed and yet the backbone of this country Is the self employed.

Just caught tail end on radio saying they were asking for approaching 30% with inflation, if I’m honest BT I know a driver and he’s on 42/48k depending on shifts etc.