Knee taking … now only occasionally for prem league

[rolymiller]

While virtue signalling is a bit arrogant there is nothing wrong in someone trying to promote something that is he decent thing to do. Are people who promote charities virtue signallers? We all know what is right and wrong even from an early age and i really cant believe anyone on here has any objections to the world being a fair and just place. If they dont id be interested to know why.

[KerrAvon]

Yet footballers and presenters continue to use the websites where the big problems lie (twitter for example).

Are you suggesting that they should exile themselves?

[KerrAvon]

I've expressed some reservations about knee taking in the past because of a concern that some players might feel compelled to take part for fear of a backlash if they didn't (think James Mcclean and poppy wearing).

Even bearing my concern in mind, I struggle to see the motivation for some of the posters who have contributed to this thread. If supporters were expected to take part or even compelled to applaud, I would get it, but they aren't so why get upset about it?

[Shark27]

Are you suggesting that they should exile themselves?

If boycotting a website that allows racism is exiling yourself then yes.

If all the famous people who complain about racism on twitter etc. boycotted it then I’m sure twitter etc. would miraculously find a way to prevent these tweets being shown.

I would if I felt so strongly about something. Never been on twitter though so I can only go by what all the TV and radio presenters were saying who are still on it.

[KerrAvon]

Twitter is pretty hateful (it brings the worst out in people by allowing them to express themselves with very limited consequences), but I don't think overt racism is tolerated.

I get what you are saying, but it's a dangerous approach to suggest that victims of abuse and prejudice should simply avoid platforms where it occurs. If that's the appropriate approach then what next? Should black people not play professional football given the behavior of some supporters?

[Shark27]

Twitter is pretty hateful (it brings the worst out in people by allowing them to express themselves with very limited consequences), but I don't think overt racism is tolerated.

I get what you are saying, but it's a dangerous approach to suggest that victims of abuse and prejudice should simply avoid platforms where it occurs. If that's the appropriate approach then what next? Should black people not play professional football given the behavior of some supporters?

If all sports stars, commentators, actors etc who speak out against the online abuse united and boycotted a website I think it would be a good thing. It would be similar to boycotting a brand due to using child labour or mistreating animals. Although I was under the impression that racist comments where a common theme on twitter.

It’s not just the racism. Kids are killing themselves due to online bullying. I’m sure the parents wished their kids would have boycotted the website.

Regarding the black footballers, there are already threats of walking off the pitch if there is racist abuse. I think they should do it. It would be a similar stance.

[avondalemiller]

................. if we all boycotted nasty things we'd go back to living in a cave, burning animal fat.

Oh, hold on, someones complaining about the poor animal..........blow it out.

[Shark27]

................. if we all boycotted nasty things we'd go back to living in a cave, burning animal fat.

Oh, hold on, someones complaining about the poor animal..........blow it out.

Depends how much you believe in a specific cause.

I’m sure there have been times in your life when you have boycotted certain things when you’ve been upset or annoyed . Or cancelled something.

[mellowmiller]

It's called disassociating yourself with a loose cluster of entities that don't appear to be best representing you accurately and just giving the true message you want to portray.

They can't win. People say that they support the message but not BLM. The club distance itself from BLM but keeps the message and then people get all upset that they're being "gaslighted". Mental.

Don't you think a bit of due diligence wouldn't have gone amiss before the media and football clubs jumped on the BLM bandwagon? That might have gone a long way to making the knee gesture a lot more credible.

[great_fire]

Don't you think a bit of due diligence wouldn't have gone amiss before the media and football clubs jumped on the BLM bandwagon? That might have gone a long way to making the knee gesture a lot more credible.

That was due to the black players committee that the Premier League has, they chose to support BLM.

It's chaired by Darren Moore but Troy Deeney seemed to be the most in favour, him and his girlfriend trademarked the the BLM shirt sleeve design.