Continued failure to recruit sufficient numbers cruelly exposed

[RedandWhiteSpartan]

What happened to the more reasonable, happy Wartman?

It's far too early to judge how the season is going to go.

Grimsby, the manager got it wrong...too many changes, but he puts his hand up for that.
Saturday, we're down to 10 men, relatively early on, on a terribly hot day. We can't make long term judgements on that.

Who are you to say the board should be putting their hands in their pockets??
You're not even a decent supporter, first sign of trouble...you're off on one of your tantrums again.

[MikeSB]

What happened to the more reasonable, happy Wartman?

It's far too early to judge how the season is going to go.

Grimsby, the manager got it wrong...too many changes, but he puts his hand up for that.
Saturday, we're down to 10 men, relatively early on, on a terribly hot day. We can't make long term judgements on that.

Who are you to say the board should be putting their hands in their pockets??
You're not even a decent supporter, first sign of trouble...you're off on one of your tantrums again.

The BoD have covered the 2m loss from relegation but I didn't think the FA/PL fees were that big between L1 and L2 and about 300K? That loss cannot be sustained and cuts will need to be made to the academy and the management staff as rediculous having three or four managers at games now. What if they all have a different opinion? It can only sow doubt in the managers mind imo...

[jimmyboldon]

The BoD have covered the 2m loss from relegation but I didn't think the FA/PL fees were that big between L1 and L2 and about 300K? That loss cannot be sustained and cuts will need to be made to the academy and the management staff as rediculous having three or four managers at games now. What if they all have a different opinion? It can only sow doubt in the managers mind imo...

Well that’s twice so far you’ve repeated yourself about managers in this thread. Going to go for the hat trick, with a bit of J
G thrown in?
It gets boring Mike.

[MikeSB]

Well that’s twice so far you’ve repeated yourself about managers in this thread. Going to go for the hat trick, with a bit of J
G thrown in?
It gets boring Mike.

In the highlights I saw THREE of our managers (and no doubt more in the stand) on the line and we cannot afford to buy decent players? and we are losing 2m pounds from last season? Why was KL sacked from his asst manager job of DA? I think our BoD have work to do and quick...I would swap a a manager for a player anyday and I suggest so would ManU..

That is my hat trick! JG would agree 100% with me LOL...Put the managers in the team and save some money!

[Wartman]

What happened to the more reasonable, happy Wartman?

It's far too early to judge how the season is going to go.

Grimsby, the manager got it wrong...too many changes, but he puts his hand up for that.
Saturday, we're down to 10 men, relatively early on, on a terribly hot day. We can't make long term judgements on that.

Who are you to say the board should be putting their hands in their pockets??
You're not even a decent supporter, first sign of trouble...you're off on one of your tantrums again.

What constitutes a decent supporter ? I don’t consider the above to be anything like a tantrum, I am merely pointing out that the club has not recruited sufficiently enough to withstand injuries and suspensions and that the fringe players are either not ready or not good enough and to consider any of these in your first team plans is reckless. In the last 2 games we have seen fringe players included and injuries (albeit only 2) but that has resulted in a complete collapse in team form so if pointing this out makes me not a decent supporter then I am guilty as charged, but Spartan if you believe the club has recruited sufficiently enough and the the fringe players are good enough then you must be a decent supporter !!!!

[Wartman]

What happened to the more reasonable, happy Wartman?

It's far too early to judge how the season is going to go.

Grimsby, the manager got it wrong...too many changes, but he puts his hand up for that.
Saturday, we're down to 10 men, relatively early on, on a terribly hot day. We can't make long term judgements on that.

Who are you to say the board should be putting their hands in their pockets??
You're not even a decent supporter, first sign of trouble...you're off on one of your tantrums again.

To add to my previous reply you only need to look at our bench on Saturday at Salford which was truly awful lacked very little quality and experience to enable the manager to make changes that would affect the game positively for us, if you needed any further evidence that more recruitment is needed.

[MikeSB]

To add to my previous reply you only need to look at our bench on Saturday at Salford which was truly awful lacked very little quality and experience to enable the manager to make changes that would affect the game positively for us, if you needed any further evidence that more recruitment is needed.

What is worrying is that AM has spent what 20 odd years coaching in our academy and to then put out a team against Grimsby that was nowhere near the best one and the three managers must have known that and yet not realising it wasn't just about potentially losing badly but the effect it could have on the next match(es).

Some of us who never ever spent time in coaching or running a football club knew that beforehand and yet they didn't...If I was Chairman I would have gone mad him putting out a team as though it was pre season.. The policy of a manager/coach is to put the very best team they could and have some fringe players on the bench to introduce later in the match. Bad bad decisions by so called experienced coaches suggests they could learn very quickly what not to do next or may just do the same again. People think I am nuts and that can be true at times but really in the old days club managers put out the very best team they could and why when we played double winning Spurs around 1960 they had about ten internationals playing. Today they are only interested in money and managers will play a second or third eleven to save them for continentall matches that mean absolutely zero to fans like me and I would never go to any of those matches even with free tickets..

You don't need 'coaches' in football but ordinary people who understand the purpose of football and how many goal chances did we have last Saturday? Was it zero or one or two over 95 mins...Three managers and not a clue about football....

[MikeSB]

What is worrying is that AM has spent what 20 odd years coaching in our academy and to then put out a team against Grimsby that was nowhere near the best one and the three managers must have known that and yet not realising it wasn't just about potentially losing badly but the effect it could have on the next match(es).

Some of us who never ever spent time in coaching or running a football club knew that beforehand and yet they didn't...If I was Chairman I would have gone mad him putting out a team as though it was pre season.. The policy of a manager/coach is to put the very best team they could and have some fringe players on the bench to introduce later in the match. Bad bad decisions by so called experienced coaches suggests they could learn very quickly what not to do next or may just do the same again. People think I am nuts and that can be true at times but really in the old days club managers put out the very best team they could and why when we played double winning Spurs around 1960 they had about ten internationals playing. Today they are only interested in money and managers will play a second or third eleven to save them for continentall matches that mean absolutely zero to fans like me and I would never go to any of those matches even with free tickets..

You don't need 'coaches' in football but ordinary people who understand the purpose of football and how many goal chances did we have last Saturday? Was it zero or one or two over 95 mins...Three managers and not a clue about football....

I mean this respectfully so they can actually learn from mistakes they make but could add that the minute we went from 5 forwards to one or two was the time they all lost the plot imo....

[out0lunch]

I think the 6-3 loss to Hungary in 1953 made people change that formation.