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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Does this £128m mean the we mainlanders subsidised you island dwellers to the tune of £124 m ( £128m less the £4m profit.

    Not sure I really support this level of subsidy. I think about 60000 people stay ion the island catered for by CalMac. that works out at a wee bit over £2000 per resident.
    People living in Mainland Scotland do not realise that the Calmac ferries are the bridges to the mainland for people living on these islands.
    The tolls on road bridges were scrapped by the Scottish Government and using the same formula people should be able to travel on the Scottish Government owned Calmac ferries free of charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    People living in Mainland Scotland do not realise that the Calmac ferries are the bridges to the mainland for people living on these islands.
    The tolls on road bridges were scrapped by the Scottish Government and using the same formula people should be able to travel on the Scottish Government owned Calmac ferries free of charge.
    Nice try Islay! You cannot be serious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Nice try Islay! You cannot be serious!
    Why not.
    The Scottish Government removed the tolls for all vehicles travelling on the toll bridges throughout Scotland so why not remove the charges when travelling on the Scottish Government owned ferries which are the ‘islanders bridge to the mainland’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Why not.
    The Scottish Government removed the tolls for all vehicles travelling on the toll bridges throughout Scotland so why not remove the charges when travelling on the Scottish Government owned ferries which are the ‘islanders bridge to the mainland’.
    If you can't even see the difference between a boat and a bridge it kind of explains a lot of the total ****e you spout I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    If you can't even see the difference between a boat and a bridge it kind of explains a lot of the total ****e you spout I suppose.
    It has been well documented for many years that the Calmac ferries are the island residents ‘bridge’ to the Scottish Mainland.
    Your post is typical of a city dweller who has no idea about living on a Scottish island all the year round, not just for a fortnight’s holiday.
    The Scottish Government ministers are equally clueless but they enjoy turning up a whisky distillery on Islay to receive a free bottle of single malt Scotch whisky.
    A number of years ago the Governor of the Bank of England who was carrying out his farewell tour of the U.K. conveniently turned up at Ardbeg Distillery on Islay where he was photographed receiving a bottle of Ardbeg single malt whisky from the Ardbeg Distillery manager.
    The photograph was published on the front page of the Ileach, the Islay community newspaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    It has been well documented for many years that the Calmac ferries are the island residents ‘bridge’ to the Scottish Mainland.
    Your post is typical of a city dweller who has no idea about living on a Scottish island all the year round, not just for a fortnight’s holiday.
    The Scottish Government ministers are equally clueless but they enjoy turning up a whisky distillery on Islay to receive a free bottle of single malt Scotch whisky.
    A number of years ago the Governor of the Bank of England who was carrying out his farewell tour of the U.K. conveniently turned up at Ardbeg Distillery on Islay where he was photographed receiving a bottle of Ardbeg single malt whisky from the Ardbeg Distillery manager.
    The photograph was published on the front page of the Ileach, the Islay community newspaper.
    Do you understand the word 'metaphorical' at all? The term 'bridge to the Scottish mainland' is metaphorical - they're not actual bridges despite being termed such by a small number of people.

    I choose to live on the Scottish mainland partly because there's nothing on any Scottish island that could tempt me to live there. People who live on Scottish islands choose to live there despite there being various issues surrounding access, convenience and extra living costs. Most accept it's their choice and don't bleat on and on and on about it.

    I genuinely couldn't give a toss about the Governer Of The Bank Of England getting a bottle of whisky. I'm also sitting here wondering what it has to do with the subject at hand. Unless he maybe tried walking from stern to bough of the ferry on the way home expecting to alight straight onto dry land after somebody told him it was 'the bridge to the mainland'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Nice try Islay! You cannot be serious!
    I enclose the Calmac Ferries Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st March 2021. https://www.calmac.co.uk/media/7855/...=1654095781973
    I suggest that you scroll down to Page 12 of the accounts section where you will read a breakdown of their total income which was
    £198,959,000.
    This consisted of
    Fares and other income £41,758,000
    Scottish Government grant. £156,617,000
    Management Fees. £484,000
    Therefore the income from fares and other income which will probably be sales of meals from the restaurants on the ferries plus purchases in the Mariners Coffee Cabins plus alcoholic drinks from bars on ferries where applicable equates to 20.99%
    It is a pity that the enclosed annual accounts did not list the income solely from Fares which would have made it a lot easier to calculate the % of income from fares compared to the total costs of operating the Calmac ferries during their financial year.
    £41,758,000 is a minute amount compared to the £41 billion (£41,000,000,000) that the Scottish Government has received from the Westminster Government under the rules of the Barnett Formula in their current financial year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I enclose the Calmac Ferries Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st March 2021. https://www.calmac.co.uk/media/7855/...=1654095781973
    I suggest that you scroll down to Page 12 of the accounts section where you will read a breakdown of their total income which was
    £198,959,000.
    This consisted of
    Fares and other income £41,758,000
    Scottish Government grant. £156,617,000
    Management Fees. £484,000
    Therefore the income from fares and other income which will probably be sales of meals from the restaurants on the ferries plus purchases in the Mariners Coffee Cabins plus alcoholic drinks from bars on ferries where applicable equates to 20.99%
    It is a pity that the enclosed annual accounts did not list the income solely from Fares which would have made it a lot easier to calculate the % of income from fares compared to the total costs of operating the Calmac ferries during their financial year.
    £41,758,000 is a minute amount compared to the £41 billion (£41,000,000,000) that the Scottish Government has received from the Westminster Government under the rules of the Barnett Formula in their current financial year.
    Thanks Islay. I will try to find out how the Northlink ferries compare.

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