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    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
    In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
    Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
    In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
    Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.
    I've always felt booing should be reserved for particularly shameful days when the players haven't broken sweat and have embarrassed the club - that's when you should let them know what you think. But my reaction generally whenever we concede a goal is to stand up and encourage the team to fight back, because how else are we going to get out of a predicament?

    "Being the 12th man" is a horrible cliche, but there's also no feeling like it when the ground is rocking and the fans are behind the players. Not sure why some of our fans find that so hard to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
    In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
    Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.
    Exactly how I feel. Couldn't have put it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do?
    Because many don't seem to understand it, otherwise they wouldn't react the way they do when comments are less than complimentary. And you can be on social media (I suspect most) and only allow real people you know comment and message, so if that setting is not used then again there is a lack of understanding.

    That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    Two comments to that:

    1) Spiking is assault, physical assault, not virtual world stuff. It is a crime.

    2) Any woman who goes to (certain) bars/clubs needs to be aware of the realities. It's like the guy who crossed the road with the pedestrian lights on green and a car missed seeing the red so he got knocked over and killed. When he got to heaven he said "but I was right!", and St Peter replied, "Indeed, dead right".
    PS I always look, whether driving or walking, regardless. A traffic light is not a brick wall safety fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
    In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
    Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.
    It's not saying that at all but I appreciate your point of view. Social media allows anyone to hide behind a screen and say / do what they want. It then feeds advertising revenue for massive companies who then basically have little to no regulation to do what they want and in many instances pay no tax! I am not saying we should accept it in fact quite the opposite, I am saying that if it isn't used then it defeats the business model and then it will force change. I can't comment on the booing obviously. There will always be dickheads. That's life. Just like there will always be people who try and spike womens drinks in pubs ( and believe me I have 3 daughters it scares me to death). I've seen one of my own kids bulled to the point of significant self harm to herself on social media and believe me I dislike it intensely and for good reason. It's evil it allows people to hide and cause great harm and the only way it will be changed is if the revenue model is defeated by significant regulation or people moving away from it. I say this with considerably informed opinion having seen what it does to young people. I totally advocate change but the way to achieve it has to start with financially harming the social media companies business model with hugely negative financial outcomes for them and forcing them to police their platforms properly - or people walk away or can't use it. That needs to be worked out and implemented by someone far smarter than me.

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