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Thread: Negativity goes too far

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    Quote Originally Posted by uysapie View Post
    She doesn't run the OSA, she is simply a committee member along with others.
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    If I was a sports star in the limelight even at our level I wouldn't be on socials for precisely this reason as like it or not there are always dick heads whether they are trolls or "fans", "supporters" whatever. It's stupid and obviously most would condone it including me but the only way for it not to happen is not to be involved in the circus in the first place as unfortunately there is always one. You will never stop it unless the accountability for the action rests with the companies who own the platforms and their revenue models are put at risk. Which will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenslandpie View Post
    If I was a sports star in the limelight even at our level I wouldn't be on socials for precisely this reason as like it or not there are always dick heads whether they are trolls or "fans", "supporters" whatever. It's stupid and obviously most would condone it including me but the only way for it not to happen is not to be involved in the circus in the first place as unfortunately there is always one. You will never stop it unless the accountability for the action rests with the companies who own the platforms and their revenue models are put at risk. Which will never happen.
    It's not just players who should steer clear either. Our two immediate past club chairmen probably would have made better and less expensive decisions if they hadn't been influenced by social media. The Reedtz Brothers fortunately seem to stay well away from it.

    If you do decide to use Twitter or Facebook or even sites like this, your first rule should be to take what you read (and sometimes even what you write) with a pinch of salt. Social media can be entertaining if you don't take it too seriously, but if you're easily hurt by idiots venting their spleen anonymously, then stay well clear. It's not the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    It's not just players who should steer clear either. Our two immediate past club chairmen probably would have made better and less expensive decisions if they hadn't been influenced by social media. The Reedtz Brothers fortunately seem to stay well away from it.

    If you do decide to use Twitter or Facebook or even sites like this, your first rule should be to take what you read (and sometimes even what you write) with a pinch of salt. Social media can be entertaining if you don't take it too seriously, but if you're easily hurt by idiots venting their spleen anonymously, then stay well clear. It's not the real world.
    As a dinosaur, I avoid all social media. Seems easier that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    It's not just players who should steer clear either. Our two immediate past club chairmen probably would have made better and less expensive decisions if they hadn't been influenced by social media. The Reedtz Brothers fortunately seem to stay well away from it.

    If you do decide to use Twitter or Facebook or even sites like this, your first rule should be to take what you read (and sometimes even what you write) with a pinch of salt. Social media can be entertaining if you don't take it too seriously, but if you're easily hurt by idiots venting their spleen anonymously, then stay well clear. It's not the real world.
    Agreed. But people need to be aware a lot of the nonsense is simply troll stuff designed to get precisely the reaction that this notts stuff is getting and no more. If it was not reacted to or put in the spotlight it would not have the desired effect. And if the players owners whatever were not there to be put in the spotlight then basically problem solved as if they are there I can guarantee it will always happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenslandpie View Post
    If I was a sports star in the limelight even at our level I wouldn't be on socials for precisely this reason as like it or not there are always dick heads whether they are trolls or "fans", "supporters" whatever. It's stupid and obviously most would condone it including me but the only way for it not to happen is not to be involved in the circus in the first place as unfortunately there is always one. You will never stop it unless the accountability for the action rests with the companies who own the platforms and their revenue models are put at risk. Which will never happen.
    It’s funny. Not too long ago football fans including some on here were bemoaning the fact that players had become more and more detached from fans. This was mainly down wages as fans and players would seldom mix at the same restaurants, bars or holiday destinations where in previous generations you could speak with these blokes. One way a player can interact with fans is via social media. Yes there will be trolls at times, but I’d guess there is a lot more positive interactions that won’t get spoken about.
    Social media providers and Law needs to make it a safe environment for all to interact as let’s face it there is a lot worse that happens on there than a footballer being called crap or old.

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    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
    In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
    Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
    In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
    Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.
    I've always felt booing should be reserved for particularly shameful days when the players haven't broken sweat and have embarrassed the club - that's when you should let them know what you think. But my reaction generally whenever we concede a goal is to stand up and encourage the team to fight back, because how else are we going to get out of a predicament?

    "Being the 12th man" is a horrible cliche, but there's also no feeling like it when the ground is rocking and the fans are behind the players. Not sure why some of our fans find that so hard to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
    In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
    Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.
    Exactly how I feel. Couldn't have put it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do?
    Because many don't seem to understand it, otherwise they wouldn't react the way they do when comments are less than complimentary. And you can be on social media (I suspect most) and only allow real people you know comment and message, so if that setting is not used then again there is a lack of understanding.

    That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
    Two comments to that:

    1) Spiking is assault, physical assault, not virtual world stuff. It is a crime.

    2) Any woman who goes to (certain) bars/clubs needs to be aware of the realities. It's like the guy who crossed the road with the pedestrian lights on green and a car missed seeing the red so he got knocked over and killed. When he got to heaven he said "but I was right!", and St Peter replied, "Indeed, dead right".
    PS I always look, whether driving or walking, regardless. A traffic light is not a brick wall safety fence.

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