Warnock's Visit to The Lane

[slack_pie]

When you look at some of Warnock's team talks on Youtube, you can see how passionate and driven he was. His attitude was infectious and a massive part of his success over decades. I think football today is much more complicated than it was back then. There's more focus on the finer details to do with tactics and conditioning, and less focus on old-school leadership. As a result, it seems that there are fewer managers like Warnock around today - managers whose attitude and personality played as big a part as anything else in their success.

I sometimes think that's what we're missing these days, especially at Notts these last few years. We've got the finer details pretty much sorted, but do we have the passion, determination, and willingness to win at all costs that it takes to be successful?

[upthemaggies]

That video has prompted me to have a look at the stats for 1989-92 again and its the shockingly low gates in comparison to what we're getting now that stand out. In comparison to Fword however they aren't quite so bad.
Even so, Warnock and Pavis deserved a far better return for the efforts and its' no wonder the collapse was as sudden as the rise with such pitiful support. Had it come a decade or so later, the attendances wouldn't have been such an issue with the amount of money coming in from TV.

If we're not naming the Kop after Colin Slater, Bradd or Masson (the latter pair's era already represented by the Sirrel stand), it should be named after Warnock.

Notts average gates as a percentage of Fwords average gate the same season

1975/76 - 97% (Season I started collecting football cards, both cllubs in tier 2)
1982/83 - 58% (My first season at Meadow Lane, top flight)
1991/92 - 47% (last season both clubs in top flight together)
2009/10 - 31% (Munto season)
2021/22 - 25% (Last season)

[slack_pie]

That video has prompted me to have a look at the stats for 1989-92 again and its the shockingly low gates in comparison to what we're getting now that stand out. In comparison to Fword however they aren't quite so bad.
Even so, Warnock and Pavis deserved a far better return for the efforts and its' no wonder the collapse was as sudden as the rise with such pitiful support. Had it come a decade or so later, the attendances wouldn't have been such an issue with the amount of money coming in from TV.

If we're not naming the Kop after Colin Slater, Bradd or Masson (the latter pair's era already represented by the Sirrel stand), it should be named after Warnock.

Notts average gates as a percentage of Fwords average gate the same season

1975/76 - 97% (Season I started collecting football cards, both cllubs in tier 2)
1982/83 - 58% (My first season at Meadow Lane, top flight)
1991/92 - 47% (last season both clubs in top flight together)
2009/10 - 31% (Munto season)
2021/22 - 25% (Last season)

Those stats are actually pretty impressive when you think about it. I mean last season was our joint lowest league finish ever, while it was Forest's best season this century. Forest as a club seem way more than four times bigger than us. The amount of money they have is probably closer to 4000x than 4x. So to get a quarter of their gates is pretty good really.

It's strange about the low gates when we were last a decent side. I think we average just over 10k in the top flight. We'd probably get that if we made it back to L1 now, given the momentum and excitement that would generate.

[SwalePie]

That video has prompted me to have a look at the stats for 1989-92 again and its the shockingly low gates in comparison to what we're getting now that stand out. In comparison to Fword however they aren't quite so bad.
Even so, Warnock and Pavis deserved a far better return for the efforts and its' no wonder the collapse was as sudden as the rise with such pitiful support. Had it come a decade or so later, the attendances wouldn't have been such an issue with the amount of money coming in from TV.

If we're not naming the Kop after Colin Slater, Bradd or Masson (the latter pair's era already represented by the Sirrel stand), it should be named after Warnock.

Notts average gates as a percentage of Fwords average gate the same season

1975/76 - 97% (Season I started collecting football cards, both cllubs in tier 2)
1982/83 - 58% (My first season at Meadow Lane, top flight)
1991/92 - 47% (last season both clubs in top flight together)
2009/10 - 31% (Munto season)
2021/22 - 25% (Last season)

Very interesting stats!

[upthemaggies]

Very interesting stats!

I'd just picked out a few key seasons and then tagged last season on for where we're at now. I expect there will be seasons where it's dipped below 25%, it will have gone up and down rather than a straight crash but there will obviously have been a general downward trend as a result of Clough/Taylor in percentage terms. What impact Fwords success this year will have going forward on the split between r*ds and b&w stripes in our fair city remains to be seen.

[Elite_Pie]

I'd just picked out a few key seasons and then tagged last season on for where we're at now.

Don't know if you can confirm it UTM, but I have a random memory that for just one season we had a slightly higher average home attendance than them. It would be early 70s when Allan Brown was their manager, but then shortly afterwards Sam Longson sacked Clough at Derby. The rest is history, and not in our favour,

[upthemaggies]

Don't know if you can confirm it UTM, but I have a random memory that for just one season we had a slightly higher average home attendance than them. It would be early 70s when Allan Brown was their manager, but then shortly afterwards Sam Longson sacked Clough at Derby. The rest is history, and not in our favour,

1972/73 they averaged 9.995, Notts 10,701, so in percentage terms that would be 107%
Before that you have to go back to 1955 when we averaged over 2k more than them. In 1950 we had 13k higher average than them, 159% of their average.

[Elite_Pie]

1972/73 they averaged 9.995, Notts 10,701, so in percentage terms that would be 107%.

Thanks for that, you've made an old man feel very happy.

The annoying thing is that when their 72/73 attendance tripled under Clough, all 30,000 of them insisted they had been there for years!