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Thread: JR gone. Next manager

  1. #131
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    I also think on a slightly longer period going back that managers should be entire managers and not footi coaches or coordinators or whatever they want to call them.

    The Manager should be in charge of every piece of park business from the kids through training, signing and the match day.

    Since we have had this liberal divesting of responsibility its been too easy to hide and lack cohesion.

  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    Dunc has Heggy Brewster Kirkwood and Luggy written all over it. I would be very surprised if he wants to start his solo managerial career with us and really hope he doesn't. But hell, we could do with some fire in this team and we know he would bring it.
    Unless we don't continue the improvement we should stick with Liam Fox until the WC break and review it then.

    Apart form being all ex United managers I don't think Duncan has much in common with these guys.

    Liam Fox would be the cheap and continuity option. He may have good potential but I am always weary about given managers job to caretakers when they have a managerial bounce in results. Often this is a temporary. Remember Gordon Chisholm won Manager of the Month in his first month as caretaker manager was given job a month later than sacked 6 months after that. if Fox was to get the job I would hope it would be on basis of his skills as a manager and not because results are better for a while.
    Last edited by arab777; 03-09-2022 at 06:01 AM.

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    I think i would feel most comfortable with Fox getting the job. Id imagine our players probably feel the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arab777 View Post
    Apart form being all ex United managers I don't think Duncan has much in common with these guys.

    Liam Fox would be the cheap and continuity option. He may have good potential but I am always weary about given managers job to caretakers when they have a managerial bounce in results. Often this is a temporary. Remember Gordon Chisholm won Manager of the Month in his first month as caretaker manager was given job a month later than sacked 6 months after that. if Fox was to get the job I would hope it would be on basis of his skills as a manager and not because results are better for a while.
    For every Gordon Chisholm there’s a Peter Houston who of course started off with another infamous result in our history against 10 man Oldco. Sir Pedro was only in the end given till the end of the season but of course having then won the Scottish Cup he earned his longer deal. I think Fox should be dealt with the same - if he does alright in the next 3-4 games, give him until the end of the season and then see how he’s done. No knee jerk ‘here’s a three year contract mate’ too quickly please. TWO expensive pay offs in a season is the last thing we need.

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    A recent ex-player who had Liam Fox at the Tarts said he was excellent & highly thought of.
    And yes they could have promoted LF when TC left but the fans would not have been happy. We would have been expecting a bigger name.

  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARAbCHNID View Post
    And yes they could have promoted LF when TC left but the fans would not have been happy. We would have been expecting a bigger name.
    I think this has been the biggest problem. We all wanted a bigger name, TA went for it but it went against everything we had been building and said previously. The goal has been to promote from within the structure. In hindsight, Fox was probably the most natural to take over, and continue doing what we were doing with some new additions.

    Id be happy with Fox up until the international break then make the call of whether to hire again or leave him in place.

  7. #137
    Usually when a manager is sacked there are comments from the players saying how it was their fault and not the managers. Hadn’t seen anything like that this time until last nights tully where McGrath came out with the usual platitudes. Hard to believe his comment that the players were sorry to see him go.
    When the board pick the next manager will he have to ok’d by the players.

  8. #138
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    Fox probably deserves a chance to stake a claim for the job, however his only managerial appointment to date was a complete disaster, so who knows how it'll go?

    We appointed, probably the best available candidate at the time in Ross, and its backfired big time. Just goes to show how much of a lottery choosing a manager is.

  9. #139
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    thanks, reminds me I have to go get some OPAP lottery tickets.

  10. #140
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    Big Dunc odds 8/15 on mcbookie. He was 10/1 a few days ago. Either someone has splashed a serious amount on him becoming the new manager. Or the bookies know something we don’t.

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