McClean whinging again.

[vaterland_miller]

LOL. You actually believe this don't you?

You must have conveniently forgotten about the dark ages. There is a clear correlation between secularism and the advancement of technology.

On CRT, I went to Clifton Comp in the 90s, one of the worst performing in the town.

I know full well how tough working-class white kids from Rotherham have it.

Do you think a working-class person with otherwise identical qualifications, experiences, and personality as me, but of Pakistani ancestry, has otherwise identical prospects at a job interview?

Let me put that question a different way...

If the people of millers mad were collectively interviewing for a job, and they have identical working-class candidates in all areas except ethnicity... who do you think they would hire?

We know the answer. Acknowledging and being aware of these things isn't racist. Not that that's necessarily what CRT is.

My point is, just because white working-class people also have it tough, it doesn't mean we can't also consider the implications of race in our society.

No other civilization in the world produced the science and technology that came via our culture. And that was in spite of the Greeks, the Arabs and the Chinese etc having a head start (by at least the odd thousand or two thousand years).

Having been the equivalent of a Pakistani in a highly xenophoebic European country for more years than I care to remember, I can sincerely say that I have never felt a need for the support of Woke warriors with their rainbow flags. I have overcome, what I see as understandable antagonism (even hatred) of some of my hosts by being nice and polite and respectful. And do you know what, it works and the animosity disappears and people say "I don't like the English but you're OK". And that is how to integrate - not by having sanctimonious (I like that word - thanks Howdydoo) but nasty social engineers "helping" by terrorizing the locals.

[John2]

No other civilization in the world produced the science and technology that came via our culture. And that was in spite of the Greeks, the Arabs and the Chinese etc having a head start (by at least the odd thousand or two thousand years).

Your delusion over the role of Christianity in the technological revolution is hilarious.

By your logic, anything that has changed is automatically credited to Christianity.

In reality, we had 1800 years where Christianity ruled in Europe and very little progress was made.

The thing that distinguishes Europe from those other cultures you mention was the Age of Enlightenment when Christianity started to lose its dominance.

You really should look up some basic history.

[vaterland_miller]

Your delusion over the role of Christianity in the technological revolution is hilarious.

By your logic, anything that has changed is automatically credited to Christianity.

In reality, we had 1800 years where Christianity ruled in Europe and very little progress was made.

The thing that distinguishes Europe from those other cultures you mention was the Age of Enlightenment when Christianity started to lose its dominance.

You really should look up some basic history.

In an earlier post I mentioned the Age of Enlightenment and how it was enabled by the demise of the Inquisition (of course the Inquisition was nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with political power). Your trawling back through my posts wasn't thorough enough. What you and your fellow woke gangsters are landing us with is a new Inquisition along with a new, undefined and half-baked religion for it to claim to defend. In your woke world there is no place for truth and logic - we are told that they are irrelevant.

It is the very fact that in Europe, Christianity was able to exist alongside science and logic that was special. Superstition and fear of the provable truth holds back human progress as it has done in countless other cultures. Take for example Saudi Arabia - it is effectively still medieval but wokery will try to have us believe that our culture is no better than theirs (they call it "Cultural relativism").

The collapse of church authority in Europe after in the Enlightenment did not end Christianity but rather it separated it from political power. People were still able to have religion to satisfy their moral and spiritual needs whilst not being under the power of those who claimed religious authority. The resulting system seemed to work rather well and it eventually brought us Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Tesla etc.