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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    No you don't use it to be popular. You use it to to boost your ego and pull people down. You must literally scour the board daily for OT posts and if there's any chance to antagonise someone then you do so. You're subtle in how you do it and hide it within the premise of debate, but that's what you do.
    Hmm, I'm unsure what my motivations are, but I'll try to be honest. I don't think I do it for ego, because I evidently care very little what people think of my persona here. Yes, my posts antagonise, but I think my primary motivation is for the debate, to expose people to other perspectives, and a genuine curiosity to how people react and handle having their perspectives challenged in a reasoned way.

    Human nature gets in the way sometimes, and I invariably rub some people the wrong way, and I know I'm doing it. However, I only ever do that when I think the person is "fair game", in the sense that they've been quite abrasive, rude, or ignorant. Maybe it serves my ego, but I don't think that's why I post.

    I think a way that I'm quite different from people who post on here is I never take it to heart. I can honestly say I never get worked up. I barely even give millersmad a second thought until I pop back into it from time to time when I have a little moment.

    I do of course check the OT threads, and contribute where I think there is interesting (to me) discussion to be had. I do that with on topic threads too, I just feel I have less to contribute there other than adding how good I thought Victor was again.

    So you're right, I do go on threads that interest me to comment on them, but that's a bit of a redundant statement, because that's what we all do, because that's what a forum is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    (you're a) wretch of a human being who gets his kicks out of demeaning others.
    That's a bit harsh, but it's water off a duck's back! I don't think it's fair to say I demean others.

    I do "know what I'm doing", but I don't demean people. I interact robustly with people who are looking to engage, and I can see how that could come across. But I am quite sincere in my beliefs, and I do try to be fair, and I do respect people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    Just a forum he says. This from someone going to the trouble of digging up old posts and getting all concerned that someone might abuse their power as a mod! Also someone who simply cannot avoid having the last word in any debate. You must worry that people will think you 'lost ' the debate if you don't respond. That just wouldn't do for your online persona would it John. It's just a forum though.
    Let me explain the search feature. It's very easy to use. You click on Advanced search, I typed the word "delete", and then the user "john2" and I knew I would find the thread in question. It literally took about 5 seconds.

    I do like to have the last word. Maybe it's narcissism, who knows? I must admit, as you can say many things about me, but I do like to be honest... I sometimes think "do I really need to do this last reply", and then I think "yeah, why not, I've come this far". You can call it many things, determination, stubbornness, pig-headed. Maybe narcissistic in the context of this forum. Probably all fair descriptors.

    You might not believe me, but I can honestly say I never make the last post because I'm worried I've lost the debate. Heck, with my level of narcissism, I come away from every post feeling like I've been shooting fish in a barrel. Just kidding there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    Even admits he's sanctimonious. I would also add narcissistic to that as well. There's definitely some kind of personality disorder going on.
    Personality disorder . Quite a strong diagnosis from a few paragraphs of content on a football message board per week! But hey, maybe!

    For the record, I don't think of myself above anyone at all. I think as humans we are all equal. I feel very lucky to have access to the opportunities, experiences and lifestyle that I do. I must admit I often feel like I have a better understanding of certain issues than people I debate with, but that is what it is. It's not arrogant or belittling if it's true. The same is true in reverse, most here are way more knowledgeable about football than me, so I don't express strong opinions and accept that reality.
    Last edited by John2; 21-10-2022 at 04:35 PM.

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    John, thanks for the honest response. It was an interesting read.

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