O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Elite_Pie]

Yes, apologies if anyone's feelings hurt, I misremembered.

No hurt feelings, but what I (and maybe sid) actually said was that the Tory party members rather than the Tory party MPs were unlikely to elect a Hindu non-white PM. The parliamentary party clearly favoured Sunak last time around, but the members went for Truss instead. If Boris Johnson had really managed to get 100 nominations (he clearly didn't), then I have absolutely no doubt that the blue rinse and gammon brigade would have had him back in 10 Downing Street on Friday.

[SwalePie]

One of Sunak's first quotes is that he's going to serve as PM with 'integrity'

This is bound to antagonise the whole of the Conservative Party, don't know why he has to so provocative from the off...

[magpie_mania]

No hurt feelings, but what I (and maybe sid) actually said was that the Tory party members rather than the Tory party MPs were unlikely to elect a Hindu non-white PM. The parliamentary party clearly favoured Sunak last time around, but the members went for Truss instead. If Boris Johnson had really managed to get 100 nominations (he clearly didn't), then I have absolutely no doubt that the blue rinse and gammon brigade would have had him back in 10 Downing Street on Friday.

Apparently he did. I agree that members would have brought him back though. Hopefully he realised how divisive he would be. Choice of cabinet will be really important, hopefully he won't have Dorries in it - she is still going on about Boris.

Looking forward to PMQ's on Wednesday.

[BigFatPie]

Paul Mullin’s gone up in my estimation.

https://nation.cymru/sport/wrexham-s...to-the-tories/

[crazyfists]

No hurt feelings, but what I (and maybe sid) actually said was that the Tory party members rather than the Tory party MPs were unlikely to elect a Hindu non-white PM. The parliamentary party clearly favoured Sunak last time around, but the members went for Truss instead. If Boris Johnson had really managed to get 100 nominations (he clearly didn't), then I have absolutely no doubt that the blue rinse and gammon brigade would have had him back in 10 Downing Street on Friday.

This. On LBC yesterday someone called in who was a tory member and said he thinks about 80% support Boris and Sunak isn't even British. If Boris would have run against Sunak then hello Boris. The caller said Sunak doesn't care about the English but Boris does. He cares so much that whilst my uncle couldn't visit my aunt in hospital before she died to say goodbye, he partied whilst fellow party attendees threw up in the bins. God bless Boris. At least Sunak was born in England I guess for the true blues, not sure they know Boris was born in New York.

[Elite_Pie]

Apparently he did. I agree that members would have brought him back though. Hopefully he realised how divisive he would be.

Are you saying he apparently he had 100 nominations? Really? To believe that, you would have to believe these three things:

1. Boris Johnson tells the truth.
2. Boris Johnson tells the truth where numbers are concerned - do you remember 40 new hospitals and £350 million Brexit cash to the NHS?
3. Boris Johnson would put the needs of the country above his own personal ambition.

If you believe a single one of the above m_m, I hope Santa Clause brings you lots of presents. We'll never know the truth, but this is my view, and I would put big money on it being right given the chance:

1. Boris Johnson cut his holiday short and rushed home thinking he was still popular.
2. The likes of Nadine Dorries and Jacob Rees-Mogg convinced him he was still popular.
3. Slowly but surely, reality hit home and he realised he was only popular with 60-70 arse lickers.
4. When he realised he couldn't stand because he was way short of the 100 nominations, he openly lied about the numbers to try and save face.
5. Him and his arse lickers (like Dorries, JRM and the ex-poster on here) will be doing all they can to destabilise Sunak in the hope that he will fail and Boris can take over for the next election.

I've had the pleasure on winning decent money betting that Johnson and Truss would lose their job this year. That pleasure is tempered by the realisation that we are still stuck with an incompetent and divided government.

[magpie_mania]

Are you saying he apparently he had 100 nominations? Really? To believe that, you would have to believe these three things:

1. Boris Johnson tells the truth.
2. Boris Johnson tells the truth where numbers are concerned - do you remember 40 new hospitals and £350 million Brexit cash to the NHS?
3. Boris Johnson would put the needs of the country above his own personal ambition.

If you believe a single one of the above m_m, I hope Santa Clause brings you lots of presents. We'll never know the truth, but this is my view, and I would put big money on it being right given the chance:

1. Boris Johnson cut his holiday short and rushed home thinking he was still popular.
2. The likes of Nadine Dorries and Jacob Rees-Mogg convinced him he was still popular.
3. Slowly but surely, reality hit home and he realised he was only popular with 60-70 arse lickers.
4. When he realised he couldn't stand because he was way short of the 100 nominations, he openly lied about the numbers to try and save face.
5. Him and his arse lickers (like Dorries, JRM and the ex-poster on here) will be doing all they can to destabilise Sunak in the hope that he will fail and Boris can take over for the next election.

I've had the pleasure on winning decent money betting that Johnson and Truss would lose their job this year. That pleasure is tempered by the realisation that we are still stuck with an incompetent and divided government.

Sorry you went to all that trouble - I genuinely thought I heard today that the 1922 Committee had confirmed he had 102 backers

I don't believe any of your points 1 - 3. Boris has no concept of what truth is and will say anything to further himself.

[Elite_Pie]

Sorry you went to all that trouble - I genuinely thought I heard today that the 1922 Committee had confirmed he had 102 backers.

You possibly did. I'm sure the 1922 Committee would put honesty and integrity above all else and if he didn't get really 100 nominations, they would have made it public knowledge that Boris Johnson openly lied! It was a private vote where the real result will never be known, so do you think as Tories they might have gone for damage limitation?

I know you're not a betting man m_m, but I followed the odds. If Boris Johnson really had got the support he claimed, he would quickly have been long odds on. Instead the closer to the deadline, the more Johnson drifted. The bookies don't care what the truth is or who wins, but in my experience the odds they offer reflects the reality of any given situation more than any media reports.

[CamPie]

Paul Mullin’s gone up in my estimation.

https://nation.cymru/sport/wrexham-s...to-the-tories/

And mine - I really hope he scores enough with those boots to finish second (and then draw a blank in the final as they lose to York).

[Elite_Pie]

Paul Mullin’s gone up in my estimation.

https://nation.cymru/sport/wrexham-s...to-the-tories/

Surprised at you BFP, liking someone who has "Fund the Tories" on their boots.

Or have I put 2 and 2 together and made 5?