O/T Trussed in Leader gone

[crashbang]

He is investing for the future.

[crashbang]

Seems to be a lot of job vacancies available. And no one wants to get out of bed.
Cut benefits.
Triple lock for pensioners will go. So cut the rest.

[ragingpup]

I don't disagree.

I just take issue with everyone blaming Brexit. I think all countries are suffering at the moment with inflation, high energy prices etc. As I've already stated, we had a vote and for me, it hasn't been respected. I get that people were totally against it but it was a once in a generation vote.

Rather than spend years willing for it to be a complete disaster, maybe idiots like me just believe, we should give it a go. I'd rather the billions we've wasted, was invested in infrastructure and to support workers. If we have to follow the German model to make it work, let's try it.

Who, in the name of the Lord's wheelbarrow, is holding brexit back? The party that won the vote have had free reign to make it whatever they wanted it to be, albeit clearly have come up against some little barriers called 'global reality' and have found that many of their main selling points don't work in the plane we all seem to inhabit.

No opponents of brexit have done anything except sit on the outside, have a bit of an unconsequential moan and now that clear evidence is showing that brexit has made our economy worse than it would have been without brexit, some are pointing this out out on a politically meaningless football message board. Your party (assuming you voted for it) have had free reign to make brexit everything you wanted it to be. To blame powerless remoaners who have had no say is screechingly laughable. You voted for it. You can see it's a mess. Own it.

[crashbang]

It's the remoaners moaning. Get over it.

[ragingpup]

Seems to be a lot of job vacancies available. And no one wants to get out of bed.
Cut benefits.
Triple lock for pensioners will go. So cut the rest.

Cool fishing dude. At least I hope so as surely no one can be this thick? Sun reader much?

[crashbang]

OK I'll vote Labour.
Will they give pensioners the living wage?

[crashbang]

About 28000
As pensions about
9400.

[animallittle3]

Who, in the name of the Lord's wheelbarrow, is holding brexit back? The party that won the vote have had free reign to make it whatever they wanted it to be, albeit clearly have come up against some little barriers called 'global reality' and have found that many of their main selling points don't work in the plane we all seem to inhabit.

No opponents of brexit have done anything except sit on the outside, have a bit of an unconsequential moan and now that clear evidence is showing that brexit has made our economy worse than it would have been without brexit, some are pointing this out out on a politically meaningless football message board. Your party (assuming you voted for it) have had free reign to make brexit everything you wanted it to be. To blame powerless remoaners who have had no say is screechingly laughable. You voted for it. You can see it's a mess. Own it.

There is much in your post I agree with pup and some things I don't .

I've read some really nasty stuff especially online from remainers , the comments section on Brexit articles in The Guardian is proper nasty , thick , racist and meat head red wall voters are the more kinder ones , they deserve to starve to death up there not so kind .

Even remainers who have tried to explain why people voted the way they did are given a rough ride .

I'm not saying that covers every remainer by any means but it's defiantly a good few percent .

The Brexit vote was a cry for help from the low paid and politically overlooked in my opinion and one of the reasons many people voted the way they did in 2019 was to ensure the only time their vote meant something substantial then it had better well be carried through .

I take your point that looking for the benefits of Brexit have so far escaped the Conservative Party if they ever exist at all which doesn't look too promising .

However I think it goes much deeper than that in my opinion , I don't think the Conservative Party have agreed as one single entity what to do now we have left the EU , it seems to mean different things to different Tories and they are winging it at best .

The Labour Party dare not speak one single word about Brexit .

Clearly if they win the next election which looks likely although you can't ever be 100% you'd imagine they'd feel as a government in power they can start to at least have the debate and gauge the public mood .

[crashbang]

Have a debate.
That's a good manifesto.
What else does starmer have in his locker?

[crashbang]

OK I'll vote Labour.
Will they give pensioners the living wage?

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