Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
Make you’re mind up, you stated that all employers should be paying every members of staff £15 an hour which would negate the need for benefits!

When I started work in 78 I was on YTS/YOP scheme money of £18.60 less stoppages for a 40 hour week.

I was better off whilst at school getting pocket money because when I started work mum took £5.50 out of my £15.60 take home pay.

Whilst at school I “earned” more with pocket money, keeping my dinner money and doing odd jobs for neighbours.

When I left school I still did stuff for neighbours.

These days, every man and his dog wants a handout FFS!

Today’s so called “poverty” doesn’t even come close to the 60’s and 70’s for the vast majority of people.

Most of the kids at my council estate school were really poor and some in dire poverty, we were hard up but not poor but we got by without complaining all the time.

There’s no backbone to people anymore.
No I didn't I said that in the absence of in work benefits that's where the minimum wage would have to be set in order for people to live and pay their way .

The people in the 60's and 70's had luxury at the side of the 1930's and after the war so they didn't have a backbone then either did they ?

The idea of society is to progress and not compare things to way back when .

Seems to me your issue is basically that in work benefits and pensions have received a leg up whilst you are finding it tougher and don't much care for it .